View Full Version : The RIAA are a bunch of asshats


Jasper
2-16-06, 03:57 PM
RIAA Says Ripping CDs to Your iPod is NOT Fair Use
February 15, 2006

It is no secret that the entertainment oligopolists are not happy about space-shifting and format-shifting. But surely ripping your own CDs to your own iPod passes muster, right? In fact, didn't they admit as much in front of the Supreme Court during the MGM v. Grokster argument last year?

Apparently not.

As part of the on-going DMCA rule-making proceedings, the RIAA and other copyright industry associations submitted a filing that included this gem as part of their argument that space-shifting and format-shifting do not count as noninfringing uses, even when you are talking about making copies of your own CDs:
"Nor does the fact that permission to make a copy in particular circumstances is often or even routinely granted, necessarily establish that the copying is a fair use when the copyright owner withholds that authorization. In this regard, the statement attributed to counsel for copyright owners in the MGM v. Grokster case is simply a statement about authorization, not about fair use."

For those who may not remember, here's what Don Verrilli said to the Supreme Court last year:
"The record companies, my clients, have said, for some time now, and it's been on their website for some time now, that it's perfectly lawful to take a CD that you've purchased, upload it onto your computer, put it onto your iPod."

If I understand what the RIAA is saying, "perfectly lawful" means "lawful until we change our mind." So your ability to continue to make copies of your own CDs on your own iPod is entirely a matter of their sufferance. What about all the indie label CDs? Do you have to ask each of them for permission before ripping your CDs? And what about all the major label artists who control their own copyrights? Do we all need to ask them, as well?

P.S.: The same filing also had this to say: "Similarly, creating a back-up copy of a music CD is not a non-infringing use...."

Miss INXS
2-16-06, 04:26 PM
Wha? That's stupid. If you purchase a CD you are already paying for your rights to use it. As long as it's for personal use and you are not distributing them around, they should have no say in the matter.

Roemello
2-17-06, 12:47 AM
How they gonna know anyway what ya put on your pod? :lol: Not like they can track you where you're not downloading or anything... it's all done offline, so they wouldn't know anyway :p

It's like they're REALLY going out of their way to be assclowns about everything just to piss everyone off.. they're like a little group of wise-asses that get their kicks off of getting a rise out of everyone :p

PG
2-17-06, 06:26 AM
HA! Did you happen to read the responses on Fark about this article? :lol: Pure comedy gold right there!

TopCat
2-17-06, 06:39 AM
Wha? That's stupid. If you purchase a CD you are already paying for your rights to use it. As long as it's for personal use and you are not distributing them around, they should have no say in the matter.
I don't even see a problem with distributing them around. How much money do the artists and companies really lose? I would bet hardly any. In fact, I would think, sharing files would garner more fans. Simply because it could introduce people to otherwise unheard of artists. The little money they lose on cd purchases would be made up tenfold when that fan goes to the concert. IMO :p
As for dl'ding to your mp3 player..that is :bs: How much money have they lost in court fees? Obviously they have some vendetta towards the fans.

DanAria
2-17-06, 08:32 PM
Its......not possible. XD I thought they had stopped growing in stupidiy.....this must be another growth spurt of idiocy for them....it just keeps getting stupider and stupider. @_@

Just BS plain and simple...

gazza67
2-18-06, 05:44 AM
It makes me laugh when the music industry whines about how much money they're losing on downloads and piracy. The Artic Monkeys debut album in the UK has just become the fastest selling record of ALL TIME!!!
Perhaps it's because the record companies release sh*te that makes their profits fall.
And as i've said before watching 'Cribs' on MTV makes my heart bleed for those poor destitute rockstars!