View Full Version : Sexual harassment in the workplace


sarge
5-20-01, 12:54 AM
Gotta attend one of those sexual harassment awareness classes in a couple days. I'm sure that even in our current "enlightened" era, this kind of thing happens to some degree. I've never actually witnessed this happening, which I suppose makes me either in the minority or pretty sheltered. Anyone here been on the receiving end of unwanted advances/language, and how did you handle it?

Iluvthe80s
5-20-01, 04:44 AM
No, never had anything like that happen to me. This new job I have they gave me a manual about sexual harrassment I had to read. Then there was a sheet I had to sign saying I got a copy of the manual.

Jazzmyn
5-20-01, 07:46 AM
Luckily I've never been in that situation, but know of people who have. Just have to be careful what you say to people. Especially if you don't know them very well.

Jazzmyn

Not Man
5-20-01, 12:35 PM
Very true Jazzmyn there is a very fine line when it comes to offending someone.

TopCat
5-20-01, 12:55 PM
Lucky for me I work with all great people<img src="smile.gif" border="0"> That would never be a problem. I can definately say we are all friends <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> We all think alike <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0">

Tinajo
5-20-01, 01:54 PM
There's a guy that works in our lab who is 40 years old and thinks he is Elvis... I mean.. he is an impersonator on the side and a very bad one at that... he looks like the bloated, fat, before he died Elvis...
Well... I told you all of that because I wanted you to realize how gross this man is... He has been harassing me for three years now... saying things like, "Hey baby" and trying to massage my shoulders while i am on break and things like that... I have told my manager about it a few times... but nothing was done about it... so I finally got fed up with it about 2 months ago and contacted our "alert-line" which is made for situations like this.. and our regional manager paid me a visit and a couple other girls who stepped forward.. and he basically got a slap on the wrist and is still working with me... he stopped the behavior a little but I can see that he is easing back into it... It makes me so mad that people are allowed to get away with that kind of shit!!
The Regional manager says that he has trouble getting away from his "Elvis" personality and that's why he acts the way he does... That is such a lame excuse!! That personality should never have been allowed in a professional environment anyway!!!

You guys... he is sooooo gross.. I swear... He uses that hair spray dye in his hair to make it jet black and has the long side burns and everything... to top it off.... he smells so bad... watch out if he ever needs to talk to you, his breath will kill you... and he likes to be right in your face when he is talking to you, too... body odor is horrible as well...

He just needs to be fired.... he's not even very bright and is very non-productive at work... I'll even go as far to say that he brings our workplace down to a somewhat non-professional level...

Sorry for venting ... but you guys opened the door wide open for me with this topic! I needed to vent!!!! Thanks!!

Not Man
5-20-01, 02:27 PM
There has to be another way to pursue some type of action against him Tina. Don't give up he will not get away with this.

ValJ
5-20-01, 02:35 PM
OMG, Tinajo!!! That's despicable! Maybe if you go back to the regional director and tell him/her that if you have to you would get a lawyer, then they would get rid of him. I feel so bad for you!!

As for sexual harrasment, though, I think some people take it too far. (NOT TINAJO, she should go farther.) Some people freak over stupid stuff. If someone tells you that you look/smell/are nice, that doesn't necessarily mean they are trying to get you in bed. Now if they've got you pinned to the filing cabinet and are in your face, that's a problem...

morningmyst
5-20-01, 02:39 PM
Tina.....I think you should call the Regional manager again...tell them if he isn't transfered or fired that you're getting a lawyer. Remind them that you've already called once and nothing really became of it. You shouldn't be "afraid" to go to work. <img src="mad.gif" border="0">

Tinajo
5-21-01, 12:53 AM
He needs to do this shit while other people are around, though... or it's my word against his.. although I have had several witnesses talk to my manager about him...

I figure, since it is documented now and the regional manager has paid us a visit, if he says one more word to me, I'll talk to the regional again.. and if he does nothing... then I will seek out a lawyer...
whenever I ask my manager what has been done about this.. he just says "it's been handled already"... meaning he got a coaching... big deal...
By the way... I DID tell the regional director that I was thinking of contacting a lawyer... he didn't even flinch... I hate those corporate types!

I'm not going to push it at all unless there is another incident.. I don't want to seem like the bad guy in the situation... one more incident, though... and Lenscrafters is going down!

Thanks for the words of advice guys!!!

Roemello
5-21-01, 03:17 AM
Lucky I'm not around there....I'd whoop his Elvis @ss <img src="wink.gif" border="0"> I don't tolerate that kind of thing being done to any woman in front of me regardless of the situation or how 'high up' the person may be.

Guess I'm the old fashioned protective type <img src="tongue.gif" border="0"> Even as a kid, I didn't let anyone mess with the females...

Sarg
5-21-01, 03:54 AM
Tina, you may want to call the Deparment of Labor in your state. There are outside harrassment agencies in a lot of states that deal with harrassment in the work place when a company does not do anything about a report. I can't remember what their name is, but I'm sure the Dept. of Labor can give you a number to call.

Pebbles42
5-21-01, 04:05 PM
I was a victim for months. I was the only female in an all male work environment. The guy was a bit shorter than me, way older and had like 9 kids already. He lived in San Francisco, where I was working at the time. He would look at me and lick his lips or blow kisses at me. He cornered me in the back room with his arms up on the walls so I couldn't get by. Kissed my neck various times while I was in the back room eating or doing whatever, getting paper, checking for paper...I pushed him away many, many times, told him NO many, many times...
I got physically sick from the stress and got many colds and the flu, etc. I finally told my husband and he came to work to meet me and see this guy. My boss was a joke, he'd yell & cuss at us and treated me like a man. (Come on, look at my picture, do I look like a guy??) I couldn't tell my boss since he was an ass (sorry). So finally I just quit. I was trying to get pregnant at the time and with the stress I was going through, there's no way I'd carry a baby to full term working there. <img src="frown.gif" border="0"> <img src="confused.gif" border="0">

Tinajo
5-22-01, 02:44 AM
Pebbles... that sucks!! I'm sorry that you had to go through that... that is much worse than what I am dealing with right now... this guy corners me still at work... but I get out of it pretty quickly.... doesn't seem fair, does it?

Pebbles42
5-22-01, 01:38 PM
Not fair at all. I was so glad that I left that company in 1996. But the problem was trying to explain why I left that job. What do I say? I was sexually harrassed daily for months? How does that make me look? I've said that it was a stressful work environment and no room for advancement...(on top of it all, I was supposed to move up within the company from just working the front counter to doing some graphics work, but I was stuck taking in orders at the counter--my husband said it was probably because I'm a woman and they want a pretty woman there when you walk in the door)
They also didn't have the no sexual harrassment sign like every company is supposed to have. I went to that sexual harrassment class at my last job and asked if they are supposed to have it since I was harrassed at my last job. Ugh, it still makes my skin crawl. <img src="mad.gif" border="0"> <img src="frown.gif" border="0">

<FONT COLOR="#6699cc" SIZE="1">[ May 22, 2001 10:40 AM: Message edited by: Pebbles42 ]</font>

Zel
10-09-01, 01:39 AM
We should probably have that workshop at our organization. We have only 10% men - those poor guys must feel like objects to us LOL.

I had troubles in the workplace when I was in my teens. I had a grocery manager that like to come up right behind you in your cash area and block you in. He was such a leach. At that same place this guy followed me everywhere I went. I actually had to quit my job because it was so bad. I was afraid to go into the basement where the bathrooms were because he used to lurk about down there. I hope someone fixed his wagon.

wavemaster
10-09-01, 02:21 AM
Reading all these stories makes me pretty angry about those jerks who think that every woman is game for them just because theyīre in an inferior position...or just because theyīre just happen to be there.
Iīm sure they wouldnīt dare this if the womanīs their boss...

I donīt know if this can be really called sexual harassment...when I was in the training of becoming a car mechanic, one of my "colleagues" asked me each Monday morning how my weekend was...and if I had screwed my girlfriend. Though my blood was boiling sometimes, I stayed cool and tried to ignore that creep. Of course, he was then on me...told lies about me to the boss, stealing my tools, messed up my work - once he loosened the wheel lugs of a car I was repairing...since I was dead sure Iīve tightened them, and no one else was there at this time, it only could be him doing that. Luckily, nothing serious happened, the customer noticed it before he left the garage.
I was going through this for three years, but then he caught me on a real bad day. I guess he didnīt expected my furious anger, as Iīve beaten the living crap out of him. Needless to say, my training was over the same day, but I didnīt regretted it a single day.

Iīm not prissy (otherwise, I wouldnīt be here... :D ), but that was way too private, and he besmirched the honour of my girlfriend with his foul tongue, and that was something I couldnīt let pass.

Sorry, but now I needed to vent. This is something I canīt tolerate.

sassy
10-09-01, 08:01 PM
Two years ago i started working under some jerk in the purchasing department. At first he seemed real nice. He never flirted with me, but he did give me the "eyes" sometimes. I knew he was staring at me sometimes but i just brushed it off. He was my boss so I didn't think much about it. I never thought he was interested in me.
Later that year i was getting some strange emails. Someone was emailing me and saying how pretty i was and how much he wanted to tell me face to face. I emailed him back and asked him who it was. Of course he didn't say and kept on telling me how much in love he was with me. He would give me hints but i never thought in a million years it would be him. Well one day i was fed up with the game and came straight out and asked him who it was and if he didn't tell me then i would never open the emails again. Well he told me to come to the office next to mine and sit on his lap and give him a big kiss.... My jaw dropped it was my boss.. i use to share his office... i ran out of the building and sat outside to control my tears.
I finally went inside and sat at my desk.. i couldn't tell any one. NO one would have believed me any ways. He was with the company for 20 years.
After I found out it was him i pretened not to know,, he made my life a living hell. He yelled at me alot and made me do extra work. I finally had enough,, three months later he was fired.
But last month he started emailing me again.. it is to creepy..

Caligula
10-09-01, 08:36 PM
Thank-god nothing like that happens in our office, Yes I am sure, as I manage 25 people in a small office, there is lots of joking around, but when most of the office has been together for 5-10 years you know where to draw the line , and what may be acceptable to one person is not acceptable to another. If something did happen and it was reported to me, I would have no choice but to report it to my HR dept in Toronto or I would be in shit. In fact they hold sessions every year where they come here and all across the country talking about sexual harrassment and how to report the offender. I always thought they were almost trying to entrap meet a quoata for the labour board but after reading all this I guess it really does happen alot. :(

Jasper
10-09-01, 09:23 PM
Milani, forward one of those emails to me, and I will email him and I am pretty sure he will never email you again.

I think that most females have the tools to correct most sexual harrassment. They are called vocal chords. Just say to the guy "You are scum, I do not want any sexual contact with you, and if you persist, I will go to the police with a harrassment complaint, and get a restraining order against you." That will more than likely put an end to it.

I have not seen much harrassment since TAILHOOK went down and we all went to an all day training, one which is now a regularly taught inservice. We get it once a year.

At my other job, a bar, the line is blurred a LOT. I know some of the girls who are 10 times worse than me, and we have fun conversations which we all know where the line is, and we never cross it.

Either way, guys should just give it up, and stop acting like a bunch of jack asses.

Ted Nugent
10-09-01, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by topcat1970:
<STRONG>Lucky for me I work with all great people :) That would never be a problem. I can definately say we are all friends :) We all think alike :D</STRONG>


You had no problem cuz no one wants to touch you! lol :)


You know I'm only kidding. :)

TopCat
10-09-01, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by Ted Nugent:
<STRONG>


You had no problem cuz no one wants to touch you! lol :)


You know I'm only kidding. :)</STRONG>

:mad: LOL I knew that, you buttcrack sniffing Wanda lover!! :p LOL

Zel
10-10-01, 03:19 AM
WAhoooo LOL @ TC. That was over the top girl!

:)

sassy
10-10-01, 11:49 AM
Thanks Jasper for wanting to do something for me. But I dealt with it. THis morning he emailed me and i did the unthinkable I called him at his work place.
I told him that if he continues to harrass me i would make his wife aware of what he is doing....
I hope that will work.