View Full Version : Rockstar:INXS =Big F*N Joke!!!
DJJEFFCLARKE 9-25-05, 12:37 AM Not only is this one of the worst shows/ideas I've ever seen, but the singers are garbage. They cannot sing at all. The one guy's "whoo's" and thinking he's cool(tall guy, thin, black haired pretty boy) is not cool. I had the UN-pleasure of watching a few moments of this show and I gotta tell you, it sucks. The singers can't carry a freakin note and are just plain shitty. Can't they just leave this stuff alone? The other band members have made enough cash off the record sales to be set for life. Don't disgrace the band and it's fan's by doing this. I haven't heard worse singers in my life(that includes the shitty ones on AI). The guy from Australis sucks. There shouldn't be a girl lead singer, not for that group anyways. Gees, the more I think about it, the more I wanna vomit.
Miss INXS 9-25-05, 12:41 AM Didn't they pick JD?
DJJEFFCLARKE 9-25-05, 12:48 AM Didn't they pick JD?
Not sure my Beautiful friend. I do know that whoever they "picked" from the show? sucks. He will never be Michael Hutchens & the band even concocting this horridly bad idea and setting it in motion, will come back to haunt them. let the legacy and music of INXS live on, not this way though. Makes me sad. I happened to channel change for a few secs and only caught 2 of the dues performances, they were god awful. They were poseurs for sure. The second guy i saw, sucked horribly and should've been pelted with food.
You can read more about it here http://80sxchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37909
JD..was he the one in the beginning that danced around weird and did that long howl ?
Caligula 9-25-05, 07:33 AM The show went from preety much dead last in the rating up to respectable (mid teens) , easily enough for a second season. Personally I thought a lot of the contestants sounded really good ( Jordis Ungers version of the Man that saved the world sounded better than the original IMHO)
It looks like INXS will be soon in the Billboard Top 40 after many years with Pretty Vegas which was released this week.
Yeah the whole idea of the show puts a bad taste in your mouth, but if you take for whats it worth it was fun to watch. I'd rather watch fourteen 30 years old belting out AC/DC and Kiss tunes than a bunch of teens singing Beyonce and Boyz to Men
nolanbuc 9-25-05, 07:47 AM I'd rather watch fourteen 30 years old belting out AC/DC and Kiss tunes than a bunch of teens singing Beyonce and Boyz to Men
Word.
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Brand1974 9-25-05, 08:18 AM As a fan of the band INXS, I was disappointed in the show idea. As far as I am concerned, the band INXS was over the day Michael Hutchence commited suicide.
Well, I guess if you don't like the show there is always the game - INXS: Bang the drum (http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=27990). Personally, I don't want anything to do with either of them.
They were all talented in their own right, but they picked the wrong man for the job, IMO. I can see that Mig is too 'flowers and rainbows' to pull off the dark stuff, but J.D. is an asshat. They should have went with Marty. But, since I won't be buying the album, I no longer care who won or what happens.
Iluvthe80s 9-25-05, 05:48 PM I'm one of the few out there that actually likes J.D. I have to give credit to these singers that tried out for this. At least they are real musicians and not some karaoke singing wannabes like on American Idol.
I miss Michael and no one will ever come close to him, but I am happy I will get to see INXS next year on tour!
Glenn Gulia 9-25-05, 06:04 PM I thought the show rawked!
I thought the show rawked!
Hell yeah! I didn't think I would like the show at all, but I was wrong ;)
Even though JD's an assrag, he was the only one that fit with the rest of INXS.
Good times, I hope it gets picked up for a second season (with a different band of course) :thumb:
Maybe they could make five shows. One for a drummer, one for a bass player, one for a guitarist, one for a lead singer, and one for whatever else they need, then at the end make them all make an album together. :eek: Kind of like how they make a boy band, but for the rock n' roll crowd. :lol:
I need sleep. Forgive me.
KimJoy69 9-25-05, 08:53 PM :laugh: @ Val! :D
I also loved the show. I dug my heels in, at first and refused to watch... but I wish I had. They sang some REALLY great songs and I enjoyed all of the originals that the singers wrote & performed. This was WAAAAAAAAAY better than American Idol (ANY day of the week).
Like I said in the other thread, it was a BRILLIANT move on INXS' part. Fricken Brilliant. There is NO one that will be able to replace Hutchence. So... instead of the band being ridiculed for picking someone up, that the world will HATE, they "let the world chose" their new front man. That was the idea, anyway. I'm pretty positive JD was their man weeks before the final show. But anyway, the show totally thrust INXS back into the limelight.
I'm bummed about who they chose, but I think maybe they opened the doors for several of the other musicians on that show that wouldn't have been so open before. I wish them ALL luck. They are a very talented bunch. :thumb:
...the house band kicked ass too!! :D
Rhiannon73 9-25-05, 10:52 PM I was totally addicted to Rockstar INXS! Most of the contestants were amazing singers and performers. I was rooting for Marty but I also liked J.D and think he will do an awesome job! INXS won't be the same without Michael but they have every right to move on with a new singer. I wish them every success and I will definitely be going to see them if they come to Canada! :thumb:
I haven't watched much TV lately, so I never really got to see the show. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't watch it even if it got rave reviews, just because I'd expect it to be a lot like American Idol. For some reason, television in general just seems to bore me lately.:p
For some reason, television in general just seems to bore me lately.:p
I agree. I can sit down to watch TV and end up surfing the channels for 20 min before I find anything interesting. I did watch the start of this INXS show but Dave Navarro got on my nerves. Sure he has talent but to the extent that he can be a judge? No one knrew who he was until he married Carmen Electra. :p
No one knrew who he was until he married Carmen Electra. http://www.80sxchange.com/ubb/tongue.gif
I'd have to disagree. He was in Janes Addiction and the Red Hot Chili Peppers....I think alot of people who listen to those bands knew who Dave was. http://www.80sxchange.com/ubb/wink.gif
DJJEFFCLARKE 9-27-05, 05:28 AM As a fan of the band INXS, I was disappointed in the show idea. As far as I am concerned, the band INXS was over the day Michael Hutchence commited suicide.
I couldn't agree more with you my dear. Good job! :thumb:
I was totally addicted to Rockstar INXS! Most of the contestants were amazing singers and performers. I was rooting for Marty but I also liked J.D and think he will do an awesome job! INXS won't be the same without Michael but they have every right to move on with a new singer. I wish them every success and I will definitely be going to see them if they come to Canada! :thumb:
What was so "amazing" about them? they took good songs and made them sound like shit. None of them can sing. They're all trying to sound like someone else, or a sound they don't have. Most of the "singers" of today are poseurs and shit. I read here where someone called Ashley Simpson"Good", so there you go.
No offense, but whatmakes them so amazing? Because they play in front of a bunch of "clueless people" who buy this type of garbage? I'd suspect many of the same people also buy the American Idol stuff too?
Unfortunately, there's so few great singers out there, and alll the "new" ones are trying to be like/sound like/act like the old ones and don't sound a thing like them.
I read a few years back where some promoter from England actually was trying to reunite The Smiths and said that if he couldn't get Morrissey, he'd find someone else. That'd be the biggest Joke of the century. That's like Journey trying to replace a legend with a tribute band singer. :talkhand: :dammit:
Prefab Sprouter 9-27-05, 06:37 AM Most of the "singers" of today are poseurs and shit. Unfortunately, there's so few great singers out there, and alll the "new" ones are trying to be like/sound like/act like the old ones and don't sound a thing like them.
I read a few years back where some promoter from England actually was trying to reunite The Smiths and said that if he couldn't get Morrissey, he'd find someone else. That'd be the biggest Joke of the century. That's like Journey trying to replace a legend with a tribute band singer. :talkhand: :dammit:
Dude I'm afraid I'd have to disagree with you there. There are good singers out there at the moment. They provbably just dont cater to your taste in music. Fair enough, I agree with your assessment of Ashlee Simpson but there are bands that are original and are trying to forge a name for themselves. Bands like The Kaiser Chiefs, Coldplay, Stereophonics, Manic Street Preachers, Snow Patrol, Keane and The Doves have their own sound and good singers who can hold a tune and (as importantly) write their own material.
I'm not a fan of reality TV shows but if INXS want to go down this route, thats their prerogative. Sometimes these shows unearth some genuine talent. Once the show is over and the band get into the studio the winner will have a genuine chance to record material that will suit their voice and not be confined to singing covers. INXS are not some version of American Idol where the winner gets packaged and at the mercy of the Record Companies. It can only get better for INXS. If the truth be known they were well washed up BEFORE Michael Hutchence's untimely demise anyway.
I agree with you about the Smiths re-union but as to whether Steve Perry is a legend well thats your opinion! :lol:
Rhiannon73 9-27-05, 08:11 AM I couldn't agree more with you my dear. Good job! :thumb:
What was so "amazing" about them? they took good songs and made them sound like shit. None of them can sing. They're all trying to sound like someone else, or a sound they don't have. Most of the "singers" of today are poseurs and shit. I read here where someone called Ashley Simpson"Good", so there you go.
No offense, but whatmakes them so amazing? Because they play in front of a bunch of "clueless people" who buy this type of garbage? I'd suspect many of the same people also buy the American Idol stuff too?
Unfortunately, there's so few great singers out there, and alll the "new" ones are trying to be like/sound like/act like the old ones and don't sound a thing like them.
I read a few years back where some promoter from England actually was trying to reunite The Smiths and said that if he couldn't get Morrissey, he'd find someone else. That'd be the biggest Joke of the century. That's like Journey trying to replace a legend with a tribute band singer. :talkhand: :dammit:
Hey buddy, whats the big deal? I enjoyed some of the performers and the show. You said that you only caught a few moments of a program. How do you know that all the singers sounded like crap?
Caligula 9-27-05, 08:20 AM Hey buddy, whats the big deal? I enjoyed some of the performers and the show. You said that you only caught a few moments of a program. How do you know that all the singers sounded like crap?
I agree Rhiannon, I didn't think I'd like the show, but the performers were great, even amazing in some cases. I'm glad I watched the show so I could decide on my own if I liked it or not and not been told what I should like or not :thumb:
While I didn't watch the show for reasons I gave in the other thread, Jeff, how can you say there are no good singers out there? Maybe not in the genre you listen to, but in the realms of metal music there's:
~ Jorn Lande
~ Rob Rock
~ Russell Allen (Symphony X)
~ James LeBrie (Dream Theater)
Just to name a few, and they have pipes that will melt your ears. There are PLENTY of good singers out there. The only reason you don't see them on television is due to the fact that if you really ARE that talented, you can find yourself a band without having to be on a TV show. ;)
That's like Journey trying to replace a legend with a tribute band singer.
Have you heard their new singer? He sounds just like Steve Perry....
http://sonymusic.com/artists/Journey/Videos/HigherPlaceFullVid_300.asx
EGADS, We already had the Steve VS Steve debate. Lets just all say that we either loved the idea of the show, or hated it. Either way, no need to bash each other about our tastes in music.
The only reason you don't see them on television is due to the fact that if you really ARE that talented, you can find yourself a band without having to be on a TV show. ;)
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DJJEFFCLARKE 9-28-05, 03:47 AM Hey buddy, whats the big deal? I enjoyed some of the performers and the show. You said that you only caught a few moments of a program. How do you know that all the singers sounded like crap? Now wait just one cotton pickin minute....LOL!!!! I have no problems with you liking the show. Im sorry my dear if you took offense to it, please don't because that wasn't my intention.
IMO, there's just so many crappy singers out there they they traipce around on tv and the like and call them singers or bands. Most of these said people can't hold a note. Music today is far different than it was say back when we really enjoyed it(in the 80's).
You have to understand how I am luv, I'm a 80's person for life. So when i hear people doing a shitty rendition of a great 80's jam, it gets my blood boiling.
I simply didn't care for any of the singers they had on stage. I've caught bits and pieces of the show, and from what i saw, I didnt like it at all.
If you like it? that's cool. Enjoy it. Just different opinions I uess.
Dude I'm afraid I'd have to disagree with you there. There are good singers out there at the moment. They provbably just dont cater to your taste in music. Fair enough, I agree with your assessment of Ashlee Simpson but there are bands that are original and are trying to forge a name for themselves. Bands like The Kaiser Chiefs, Coldplay, Stereophonics, Manic Street Preachers, Snow Patrol, Keane and The Doves have their own sound and good singers who can hold a tune and (as importantly) write their own material.
I agree with you about the Smiths re-union but as to whether Steve Perry is a legend well thats your opinion! :lol:
You're correct there. I think the problem with "today's music" is, that the good bands/singers are so hidden in between the crappy ones, that it's hard to decifer what's good anymore? see what I'm saying?
When i turn on a radio, all I hear are the: Jason mraz's, and Ashlee Simpson's of the world. So, it's hard for a die hard music fan like myself, to find a good band that writes great music.
Say what you will about Perry(and i dont just consider this to be qualified as a "legend"), but they've sold 80 million records with Perry's voice and about 10 or so with thisnew dude.
Same with people who think Roth wasn't a legend, he was. VH's never been the same since they booted Diamond Dave. 80 million records might not be a big deal to some people? but I also look at the body of work they did. They were "corporate rock's" favorite sons when Journey had Perry at the helm. I didn't find it one bit weird that they release a record(trial by fire) almost 10 years after they broke up with Perry, and when they do? they chart 3 songs in the top 20. 10 years after being "broken up". That's what legends are made of.
While I didn't watch the show for reasons I gave in the other thread, Jeff, how can you say there are no good singers out there? Maybe not in the genre you listen to, but in the realms of metal music there's:
~ Jorn Lande
~ Rob Rock
~ Russell Allen (Symphony X)
~ James LeBrie (Dream Theater)
Just to name a few, and they have pipes that will melt your ears. There are PLENTY of good singers out there. The only reason you don't see them on television is due to the fact that if you really ARE that talented, you can find yourself a band without having to be on a TV show. ;)
Lots of great singers out there dude, just too hard to find them on TV or radio these days. I'm sure you'll agree with me on that? Labels are too busy shoving the bad ones down our throats, and alot of fans eating them up, for anyone to know who's great? I think you get what i'm trying to say? Totally agree with you.
Originally Posted by DJJEFFCLARKE
Most of the "singers" of today are poseurs and shit. Unfortunately, there's so few great singers out there, and alll the "new" ones are trying to be like/sound like/act like the old ones and don't sound a thing like them.
That pretty much describes the popular music of today. Hiliary Duff, Lindsay Lohan and both Simpsons girls. They all sound alike.
As for RockStar INXS, it gives an opportunity to singers who may normally get "swept under the rug" due to the fact that there are a billion other singers they are competing with. :)
Same with people who think Roth wasn't a legend, he was. VH's never been the same since they booted Diamond Dave. 80 million records might not be a big deal to some people? but I also look at the body of work they did. They were "corporate rock's" favorite sons when Journey had Perry at the helm. I didn't find it one bit weird that they release a record(trial by fire) almost 10 years after they broke up with Perry, and when they do? they chart 3 songs in the top 20. 10 years after being "broken up". That's what legends are made of.
Ah, but while it's true that DLR was indeed a legend, and I love the man to DEATH....he absolutely sucked as a vocalist, and that's just fact.
Take every VH record he was on and isolate his vocals. He was a terrible singer. He'd be flat or sharp most of the time, and when he performed live? Hoo boy. Couldn't carry a tune if it had handles on it. He got by on attitude and style, which unfortunately is how most of today's pop stars are getting by.
Greatest front man that ever lived....but not a good vocalist at all.
Steve Savicki 9-28-05, 09:55 AM Ahh somebody beat me to the Roth comparison. Gentlemen, I must say INXS should just change the name of their group alltogether. It's not the same without Hutchence.
Comparing this change is like comparing Roth and Hagar in Van Halen. With a commentary from a guru POJO:
"The Beatles had it right...don't put anything out unless the original 4 were left...going so far as using a remastered tape for Lennon then forcing the world to have to listen to the screeching of someone else fronting their band...or worse...their going to a 3-piece...
Van Halen [and now INXS]?...now have it all wrong...get a new lead singer...keep the original name...move into a new...mellow version of a band"
The only band that had a right to retain their name after changing singers was AC/DC and that's because sales and newcomer Brian Johnson could match Bon Scott from the very last album, "Highway to Hell".
The only band that had a right to retain their name after changing singers was AC/DC and that's because sales and newcomer Brian Johnson could match Bon Scott from the very last album, "Highway to Hell".
Ahem....there was a little band called Iron Maiden that did pretty good for themselves after changing vocalists. ;)
Did Genesis become more successful after changing vocalists? From Peter Gabriel to Phil Collins :confused:
Caligula 9-28-05, 10:44 AM As Much as I hate to say it, I think Van Halen was more successful finacially with Sammy Hagar?
Pink Floyd did pretty good after Syd Barrett left to watch his mothers washing machine spin round and round
Prefab Sprouter 9-28-05, 11:06 AM PG, Genesis were FAR better off commercially once Peter Gabriel left but as to whether they got better, I'm not sure.
Cal
I much prefer Pink Floyd's Music under Syd Barrett so I guess IMHO they got worse!
KimJoy69 9-28-05, 11:13 AM I just wanted to add my 2 cents...
INXS, like any other "legandary" band has a right to continue to play music. It wasn't their fault that Michael's life ended too soon. Could you imagine being in a HUGE successful band, known worldwide & waking up one morning and it's all gone by no fault of your own? :no: Jeez... hell NO.
Changing front men is not always successful, but sometimes it IS. Give these dudes a chance & let them PLAY. :yesnod: :thumb:
What most of the detractors of this show that I know are saying Kimmy - myself included - isn't that they don't deserve a chance to continue without Michael. I think that they way it came about just leaves a bad taste in the mouths of people involved in the business who look at integrity before success.
It's hard to understand unless you're in the position. Like I said before, they should start over under a different name. It's just my opinion, but if you have the music to back yourself up, it doesn't matter if you call yourself Awful Augie & The Ass Grabbers, you'll do well. Trying to hang on to fleeting fame is something else altogether. Look at Velvet Revolver. They aren't calling themselves Guns & Roses even though it has three of the original G&R members, yet they're doing pretty good. I guess if the remaining INXS members did this show and then went out under another name I'd give them more credit.
If you make the change and continue during the band's prime, like Van Halen, Black Sabbath & Iron Maiden did, then it's more acceptable. But to try and resurrect a dead band with a new singer, especially when it was the man who wrote ALL the music and was the main focal point, is just trying to cash in on nostalgia.
Queen was one of my favorite bands of ALL time and so was Bad Company, but for them to go out on the road now - YEARS after Freddie's death - and try to replace him with Paul Rogers while still calling themselves Queen, is a travesty.
Freddie, like Michael, is not replaceable.
So bottom line is, from a business standpoint what INXS are doing IS brilliant. They'll get another 15 minutes of fame and then crash & burn into obscurity again. However, from an artistic standpoint, it's as much whoring as Aerosmith is doing now letting their music be used for all those commercials.
Steve Savicki 9-28-05, 12:11 PM Ahem....there was a little band called Iron Maiden that did pretty good for themselves after changing vocalists. ;)
Beat me to it.
Realized I should've EDITED TO ADD: Or any band that can match that kind of success [AC/DC]
Sorry, not a Maiden fan though I did have classmates that dug them.
I just wanted to add my 2 cents...
Changing front men is not always successful, but sometimes it IS. Give these dudes a chance & let them PLAY. :yesnod: :thumb:
Kim, I respect your thoughts on this; it's just that with today's musical market taken over by corporate and all the audition shows like American Idol, it's hard to tell what will and won't turn out.
Freddie, like Michael, is not replaceable.
The last 2 words being the key ones, exactly the reason Zeppelin won't get back together. You may see another Page-Plant CD, but not one from Led Zeppelin.
Okay...Queen just restored SOME of my faith in them....
from blabbermouth.net:
QUEEN Guitarist Says Band Won't Do Next "Rock Star" Show
Launch Radio Networks reports: Some people are wondering whether QUEEN will be the next band featured on the "Rock Star" TV series, but Brian May says forget about it. On the official BrianMay.com website, the guitarist wrote, "Ha! Apparently they are voting on us being in the next show?!!! Ha! Ha! Can you imagine? I don't think so! For any number of reasons...so don't bother voting for us, folks!! I mean, REALLY!!! (as Freddie would have said!)."
QUEEN has toured this year with BAD COMPANY frontman Paul Rodgers on lead vocals. They recently put out a live album called "Return of the Champions", and a DVD is on the way. Two U.S. shows will be played next month, and the group will do a proper North American tour next year.
"Rock Star" producer Mark Burnett, the man behind "Survivor" and "The Apprentice", told The Edmonton Sun that QUEEN and VAN HALEN are among the bands who need a frontman, but he stopped short of announcing either one as doing the show. Burnett also said the show could wind up putting together an all-new group.
INXS used the show to pick J.D. Fortune to be their frontman. Their first single is "Dirty Vegas", which Fortune sang on "Rock Star" a few times, and it will be available on iTunes next Tuesday (October 4). A new album called "Switch" will be released November 29, and a tour will star in January.
KimJoy69 9-28-05, 12:33 PM Burnett also said the show could wind up putting together an all-new group. KISS maybe????? :p :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
INXS used the show to pick J.D. Fortune to be their frontman. Their first single is "Dirty Vegas"[/color] :lol: "Dirty" :lol: That's more appropriate!! :D It's actually "Pretty Vegas" :lol:
See?!?! A show for each band member, just like I said. Y'all think I'm soooo stoopud. :p :lol:
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