View Full Version : What the F*CK is wrong with the Vatican????


Pagan
12-16-03, 12:03 PM
I'm sorry if this offends anyone, but these people REALLY need to get their heads out of their f*cking asses!!!! :grrr:

from the NY Daily News:
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Vatican bigwig: Americans treated Saddam 'like a cow'



THE ASSOCIATED PRESS


VATICAN CITY — A top Vatican cardinal said Tuesday he felt compassion for Saddam Hussein after seeing video pictures in which, the prelate claimed, American forces treated the captured Iraqi leader “like a cow.”
In the first Vatican comment on Saddam’s capture, Cardinal Renato Martino said Saddam should face trial, but he stressed the Church’s opposition to the death penalty.

He told reporters the Vatican hoped Saddam’s arrest would “contribute to the pacification and the democratization of Iraq.”

Martino said he felt “compassion” for Saddam, even if he was a dictator, after seeing images of “this destroyed man” being “treated like a cow, having his teeth checked” by an American military medic.

Martino, president of the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace, was speaking at a news conference to launch Pope John Paul II’s annual message for the World Day of Peace, which the church celebrates on Jan. 1.

“It seems illusory to hope that it (Saddam’s capture) will repair the drama and damage of the defeat against humanity which war always is,” Martino said, reiterating the Vatican’s deep opposition to the U.S.-led war in Iraq.

Martino said the Vatican hoped Saddam would face trial in “an appropriate place,” but didn’t say whether that should be in Iraqi or before an international court.

Tydestra
12-16-03, 01:03 PM
Where do you want me to start? I find it funny that they know anything about a fair trial, since if the Vactian had its way, trials for priest that have molested children would've been a inside job... but I'll leave it at that, cause that's a whole 'nother can of worms

ValJ
12-16-03, 02:00 PM
Well, I don't know about the 'cow' comment. I thought making sure he was in stable health was rather kind of his captors, since most people would have just beaten him to death. :rolleyes:

Some people place their compassion in odd places. Not all Catholics feel as this Cardinal does, so be angry at the man, not his religion. ;) If Saddam had targeted Catholics and did to them what he did to his own people, I'm sure the Church would tell this guy to shut the fluck up.

Metalfan83
12-16-03, 03:05 PM
I dunno. He's lucky he's even getting treated like that. But they say in the Catholic religion, love the person, but hate the action. But even then, I feel that if a person crosses a certain line, then they deserve any mistreatment they get. And Saddam has done more than crossed that line.

Although...I have to agree on one thing... did we have to see Saddam's gaping piehole on tv? :ill: He could probably kill a camel with that kind of morning breath.

Prefab Sprouter
12-17-03, 09:33 AM
Although...I have to agree on one thing... did we have to see Saddam's gaping piehole on tv? :ill: He could probably kill a camel with that kind of morning breath.
We had to see him on TV to convince the population that he really was captured and not some ruse or false alarm.

As for the Vatican, I am a Catholic and I believe that the Hierarchy of my church can be very removed from reality sometimes. Pagan's bang on the button on this one!!

Recker
12-17-03, 05:32 PM
Unbelievable! Sadam is getting treated way too well! I don't even know why they need to have a trial, he's as guilty as sin! :rolleyes:

Metalfan83
12-17-03, 06:41 PM
We had to see him on TV to convince the population that he really was captured and not some ruse or false alarm.

This is true, I have to agree with that. I'd rather they show him like that and confirm it's him.

BrandyBlue
12-17-03, 08:49 PM
What the Vatican isn't taking into account is that this medical exam 1. Was an act of the enforcement of the Geneva Convention, to make sure that the prisoner is in good general health and 2. The opportunity to extract DNA so that we could make sure that we have the right person.

Would the Vatican rather that we just assume it's him let him rot in whatever state he was in?


We have certain rules that we are trying to follow here, even tho I don't think Saddam deserves good treatment. This is all just an attempt to be fair.

More fair, I would say, than they have been to all the victims of molestation they have been involved with--nobody there needs to be "casting the first stone"