View Full Version : I have no pity for the a$$hole who started all of this...


BrandyBlue
11-02-03, 08:41 AM
Californians Head Home After Deadly Fires
10 minutes ago Add U.S. National - AP to My Yahoo!

By KEN RITTER, Associated Press Writer

SAN BERNARDINO, Calif. - A second wave of residents displaced by Southern California's wildfires were being allowed to return home Sunday after a weekend of cooler, calmer weather helped firefighters begin to bring the blazes under control.

Reuters
Slideshow: Wildfires


As the threat began to diminish, authorities also began to make plans Sunday to send home some of the thousands of firefighters battling blazes scattered from San Diego County to the suburbs of Los Angeles.

Some evacuees got the go-ahead Saturday to check on their homes. Among them were JoDee Ewing and her husband, Steve, who found little standing of their 1920s-era house but the stone chimney, the foundation and — for some inexplicable reason — their rose bushes.

"I still have roses blooming," said Ewing, 40. "But there's no toilets. They disintegrated."

The fire that started Oct. 25 just up the road from the Ewings' place, in Upper Waterman Canyon on the edge of the San Bernadino National Forest, consumed 91,285 acres. In the last week, that blaze and a half-dozen others across Southern California have burned about 750,000 acres, destroyed nearly 3,400 homes and killed 20 people.

In San Bernardino County, some firefighters were beginning to head to home, said U.S. Forest Service spokesman Bob Narus, although he couldn't say exactly how many. In San Diego County, firefighters were expected to begin leaving after spending a few hours resting on Sunday morning, said California Department of Forestry spokeswoman Barb Daskoski.

Though fog, lower temperatures and even snow slowed the spreading flames, more than 12,000 firefighters were still on the lines early Sunday.

The fire that destroyed the Ewings' house came to a standstill Saturday, and firefighters allowed them and other homeowners to survey the damage. Residents of nearby Big Bear Valley were given the go-ahead to return Sunday.

"It's lying there right now not doing anything," Big Bear City Fire Chief Dana VanLuven said of the fire, which was 65 percent contained early Sunday. "The threat is still very real, but we are confident we can hold it off."

Authorities say an arsonist started the fire on Old Waterman Canyon Road, a winding two-lane leading from San Bernardino to Upper Waterman Canyon, a community of 66 homes and a seasonal fire station. All but eight of those homes and the fire station were destroyed.

Despite a reward of $110,000 and the distribution of a composite sketch, the arsonist has not been caught.

Firefighters across the region took advantage of the weather to build firebreaks near communities that could be threatened again next week with the expected return of hot Santa Ana winds. Firefighters burned piles of dead trees and dry brush near the small community of Sugarloaf.

"With this inclement weather, they feel they can burn that stuff safely, which will provide increased fire safety for communities later on this week when the wind and weather conditions are expected to change," said U.S. Forest Service spokeswoman Anne Westling.

The weather has also brought drawbacks. Snow and rain that fell overnight Friday caused a mud and rock slide that closed Highway 18, a major road in the area. Several trees also fell after being weakened by fire and a previous infestation of bark beetles.

One firefighter, who was part of a team that cuts down burnt trees, suffered a broken arm and leg when a large branch fell on him.

In San Diego County, the 281,000-acre Cedar Fire — the largest individual blaze in California history — was 90 percent contained Sunday after burning for six days in the mountains northeast of San Diego.

In all, six fires were still burning across four California counties.

Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge, who visited a relief center in Claremont on Saturday, said he was unsure if the nation had ever seen such destructive wildfires. The major blazes alone have cost more than $50 million to fight.

"We have our work cut out for us," Ridge said.

The secretary also defended a Bush administration decision not to declare Southern California forests an emergency tree-removal zone before the current fires erupted into one of the state's worst disasters.

Ridge, speaking with Gov. Gray Davis (news - web sites), said it was understandable that California asked for $430 million in emergency aid to rid forests of trees killed by bark beetles. But he said it was equally understandable that the Bush administration, after allocating $43 million, declined to provide any more.

"This finger-pointing is not going to do anybody any good anymore," Ridge said.

In Upper Waterman Canyon, Ewing and her neighbors donned gloves and sifted through the ashes of their homes, finding coins and an occasional undamaged piece of china.

Some, like Dr. Roger Smith, were incredibly lucky. The retired neurosurgeon returned to find two windows broken by the fire's heat but little other damage.

"Miraculous," the 81-year-old physician said.

The Ewings, although they lost practically everything, said they have no intention of leaving the area.

"Of course, you're sad that things are gone," said JoDee Ewing. "But it's a great place up here. We'll be back."

___

Associated Press writers Chelsea J. Carter, Brian Skoloff and Justin Pritchard contributed to this story.

80sTrivia
11-02-03, 09:20 AM
It's hard to believe that someone could be so sick and sadistic as to intentionally do something this heinous. I sincerely hope they catch the person(s) responsible for starting these fires and that they receive a befitting punishment for causing such devastation and heartbreak to untold thousands of people... :mad:

Chasey
11-02-03, 12:03 PM
It's terrible.....this sort of thing has been happening in Australia recently as I'm sure Retroman will testify. It just plain sucks, I think this sort of crime is right up there with the rapes and murders personally. :mad:

outofplacechild
11-02-03, 08:42 PM
An arsonist in California...

All I can do is think of that 1991 movie "The Taking Of Beverly Hills". Never seen it, but I've read the plotline and it seems awfully similar (emphasis on awfully)...

Let's hope this schmuck is bought to justice.

Sincerely,

John "outofplacechild" Kilduff

RetroMan
11-02-03, 08:54 PM
Originally posted by Chasey
It's terrible.....this sort of thing has been happening in Australia recently as I'm sure Retroman will testify. It just plain sucks, I think this sort of crime is right up there with the rapes and murders personally. :mad:

Yes you're unforunately right there Chasey - we're heading into Summer again shortly so it's just a case of where and when :(

Why these people do this I have no idea, do they get off on the amount of damage one idividual can cause? do they want to see their 'handywork' on the newscasts on TV? are they pleased at how many lives they take?
The people that do this are sickening

Tinajo
11-02-03, 09:17 PM
I hope the person responsible is caught.. and I hope it's a lowlife scumbag who has committed other crimes as well.. so that we can bring him to justice.. I'm fearful that it could have been a young kid setting the fire as a thrill only for it to end up like this.. I would hate for a teenage "mistake" (all kids do stupid things)
to have these devastaing consequences.

surfnut
11-02-03, 10:21 PM
This kinnda hits home. My Mother lives in Julian. A little town in the San Diego foot hills. They are getting stomped by the fires. I hate the fact that someone would start a fire...But those of us that live in the "Fire Zone" should expect the fact that it might happen. No differant than you guys that live in the tornado zone.

ImSoooSure
11-03-03, 02:08 AM
I guess a guy who started one of the fires was lost and started it for a help sign. I know he must feel awful. As for the others....what sickos!!! I am just praying they find them!

I sure hope your moms house is okay Surfy!!!!

Prefab Sprouter
11-05-03, 09:16 AM
People like that deserve to be immolated. or roasted alive for that is what they cause to happen to people and wildlife caught in the fires.