Does anyone remember when rap music was understandable? where you don't have to slow the music down to understand it or look at the cassette cover to read the lyrics? when did it all change? like what happened to Sir mix alot??? is he still rapping? :confused: :confused:

Does anyone remember when rap music was actually listenable? ;)

Can't say I've ever been a fan, but no offence to those who are. Just couldn't resist it. :)

No sorry I don't

Hey there..... :D I still have my copy of SUGAR HILL GANG'S RAPPER DELIGHT :D . That was like the first "rap" album I think it's been labled.

Kid and Play was a good rap Duo that you could understand. :D

Originally posted by DanAria:
<STRONG>Kid and Play was a good rap Duo that you could understand. :D</STRONG>

As were DJ Jazzy Jeff & the Fresh Prince (Will Smith), Tone Loc, Young MC, and Salt n' Pepa. I liked all of the fun rap from the mid to late 80s, when it was carefree and enjoyable and not about shooting a cop, scoring some illicit sex and/or drugs, or beating up on some crack 'ho.

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I remember a trivia question where they asked what was the first Rap hit or #1 rap song and the answer was Rapture by Blondie, has anyone ever heard that, I don't know if I agree :)

I once read an article that was probably waaaayyyy too detailed. They managed to trace the development of rap through Lou Reed's Take A Walk On The Wild Side and all the way back to the oral traditions of Homer.

I suppose there is some merit to it but it's lost on me. :)

Originally posted by Bogie:
<STRONG>I once read an article that was probably waaaayyyy too detailed. They managed to trace the development of rap through Lou Reed's Take A Walk On The Wild Side and all the way back to the oral traditions of Homer.

I suppose there is some merit to it but it's lost on me. :)</STRONG>

YO YO YO Bogie, I get Homer's Odyssey and Ol Dirty Bastard's material mixed up all da tyme....werd
:D

You da bomb Cal. :p

Originally posted by caligula:
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YO YO YO Bogie, I get Homer's Odyssey and Ol Dirty Bastard's material mixed up all da tyme....werd
:D</STRONG>

LOL, Glenn... too funny!!!

:D

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first off can we please STOP BASHING RAP, we have already done that in about 3 other threads that I can think of. I know I am one of few who like rap but come on now! Everyone knows I don't like glam metal but I don't go in the forum and write "Does anyone remember when metal rocked?".

Rapture does have a rap in it (if that's what you call what Debbie Harry does) and it did go to #1 but the first actual rap song to go to #1 was in 1990 when "Ice Ice baby" by Vanilla Ice took the top spot.

Sorry Deej. I thought we were just having a light-hearted conversation about its origins. Maybe because we don't know much about it, it seems that we are bashing. But I don't read anything like that in here.

Apologies if we've aggravated ya. :)

That's what I thought, too, Bogie... we were just having a nice conversation, remembering 80s rap!

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To get back on topic: I loved Kool Moe Dee, LL Cool J, Mantronix and the early Beastie Boys.

Malcolm McLaren's Buffalo Gals, because it is made by the team behind Art Of Noise.

I also played Vicious Rumour Club's version of Rumours a million times. :)

Sorry for lashing out but you have to admit that there have been other topics like this in the past. Two of my favorite 80's rap artist are some of the artists that started what rap is today and that is Eric B and Rakim and Public Enemy. I love "fun rap" as well, who could forget Doug E Fresh, Whodini, UTFO, Grandmaster Flash, Boogie Boys, Run-DMC, and a load of others.

I can't believe I forgot all those guys, DJ. I also forgot Kurtis Blow and Oran "Juice" Jones. :eek:

I still listen to the 80's rap tunes. I still have most of them on vinyl. I feel that the majority of todays rap music is lacking in what it could be due to the explicit lyrics and negative messages that they represent. That being said many still have some really good music and a funky beat. It's also easy to remeber the 80's rap music as being better because we tend to only remember the good stuff. There was also a fair amount of garbage rap in the 80's. We however do not remember those since its been over a decade ago.

Originally posted by djdaffy1227:
<STRONG>I love "fun rap" as well, who could forget Doug E Fresh, Whodini, UTFO, Grandmaster Flash, Boogie Boys, Run-DMC, and a load of others.</STRONG>

I remember, I still listen to it too, I didn't think anyone but me remembereed who the Boogie Boys were DJ I love Friend Or Foe by them. Todays Rap just isn't the same it lacks what the originators tried to get across.

I wasn't much of a rap fan, but I did enjoy Young MC and Tone Loc.

Well you can tell how much of a rap fan I am, I hardly recognise any of the groups mentioned.

Originally posted by Iluvthe80s:
<STRONG>I wasn't much of a rap fan, but I did enjoy Young MC and Tone Loc.</STRONG>

Same here Stacy. I enjoyed both of those artists as well as Salt N' Pepa and Run DMC.

Question: Does anyone remember the artist/title of an 80's rap/dance tune containing the following excerpted lyrics?

"Superman had come to town to see who he could rock. He blew away every crew he faced until he reached our block . . . "

and

"I said 'now that you learned the deal, let me tell you why I'm so for real' . . . "

and

" . . . I've come to rock the human race . . . "

I know it's not much to go on . . . and that I'm probably a moron. It was only recently I re-discovered Nolan Thomas and his "Yo Little Brother" single that the boys and I used to listen to while drinking beer we were too young to buy . . . It set my mind to spinning about other long forgotten tunes . . .

Any help? Shoot me an email! THANKS!

Bozzy:groovy:

That would be "Jam on it" by Newcleus

Originally posted by djdaffy1227
That would be "Jam on it" by Newcleus

THANKS! udaman.

Yeah! Rap from the mid to late 80's was cool. The words were understandable and it was all about violence. I liked groups like Whodini and UTFO.

How about Slick Rick--does anyone remember him?

I am defintely into the Beastie Boys also past and present. I think I have just about all their CDs. Maybe missing 1 or 2.

Rap today is not all so bad. It's kinda fun listening to it and trying to figure what song from the 80s their are sampling.

But I would say the most non-uderstandable rapper just by sound, would have to be Busta Rhymes. If you have the words in front of you it's easy. If not, well you have to fiend for yourself.

Slick Rick was originally a member of Doug E Fresh's Get Fresh Crew under the name MC Ricky D (He did the whole rap on "la di da di"). Slick Rick at that time was a totally different person, he was a member of Rockmaster Scott and the Dynamic Three (remember they did the song "The roof is on fire" and "Request line"?). After Rockmaster Scott and the Dynamic Three split and MC Ricky D split from the Get Fresh Crew Ricky D took the name Slick Rick. He had some great songs including "Hey young world" and "Children's story". Children's story was sampled in "This is how we do it" by Montell Jordan.

As for Busta Rhymes. He is one of the best. He started as a part of the group Leaders of the New School. He also did a guest appearance on A Tribe Called Quest's "Scenario" before he went off on his own with "Whoo-ha! Got you all in check". Rhino records just released a greatest hits collection for Busta, I reccomend it highly!

Rap has almost always sucked as far as I know. Was it ever good?

Originally posted by BrandyBlue
Rap has almost always sucked as far as I know. Was it ever good?

Back in the 80s BrandyBlue, Rap was fun... it wasn't about violence and killing your brothers.. you could understand the words and relate to them... now the only way you can "relate" is if you are in a gang or do crack...

I think old school rap may make a comeback, though... LL Cool J has stated that his next album will be cleaner and not have cussing in it.. He used to be pretty fun to listen to..
But also, I have noticed that Run DMC's "It's Tricky" is featured in that new video game commercial... Having that song in the commercial makes the game look like a blast! Great marketing!

And who could forget The Beastie Boys! *Tinajo is fighting for her right to PARTY!* :1offwall: :wacky: :rollin: :goofy: :tinajo:

I still listen to Newcleus's "Jam On It" and Sugar Hill's "Rapper's Delight" (the 15 minute version) all of the time!

Salt and Pepa were fun, as well as JJ Fad...

Great Memories guys!! Thanks!

Thanxs djDaffy.:) I didn't realize all the background to Slick Rick. I know he was cool. I knew he had something to do with Dougie Fresh, but didn't know to what extent. Thanx for the info. again.

a/b Busta. I do like him it is just so difficult for me to follow at times.