View Full Version : Do you have a plan?


bigcozy
11-26-02, 03:06 AM
Since there is an interesting cross section of people here, I thought this would be a good place to ask this.

Do you have a plan in case of a disaster, military or natural? This has always been something I have prepared for, and after the terrorists attacks I have been more vigilante. I am stunned at the number of people that have not given any thought to this. Most people seem to have done nothing for even a conventional crisis, much less a nuclear, chem, or biological attack.

If you have a plan, what is it? If you don't, why not? Do you have a bug out bag/unit?




FN/FAL - Right arm of the free world.

ImSoooSure
11-26-02, 03:17 AM
Nope...no plan here. I'd scream and cry a lot I'm sure but that's not really a plan. :rolleyes: Why not??? Well, I guess it's something I don't really like to think about happening to me. NOT a good reason I know. Maybe I'll think about it a bit more now.

Tydestra
11-26-02, 03:37 AM
My mom has the basics in a couple of bags in our closet.
Extra clothes, flashlights, radios, batteries and cash on hand.

I agree its something that we keep tucked in the deepest corner of our mind cause we aren't ready to deal with these types of situtations

amk27
11-26-02, 03:40 AM
I have blankets, water, flashlites, and canned goods in the garage and also have plenty of guns and ammo in case of a foreign attack(Red Dawn). In the car I cary a blanket and flares in the trunk and a gallon of water.

Iluvthe80s
11-26-02, 07:00 AM
I don't have a plan, but it would be a good idea for me to get one! (Especially since I live upstairs in this apartment.)

Pagan
11-26-02, 07:37 AM
I think I posted this once before somewhere....but my plan in case of nuclear attack is simple.

Grab a beach chair, a bong and a good pair of sunglasses. Climb to the highest point in my town, which would be the mountain next to I84. Sit in the chair, spark up a bowl, and watch the nukes come over the horizon.

Why would I try to survive? So I can climb out of a shelter later on to a devastated world and slowly die of radiation poisoning? No spank you....I'll party as they come in.

Plan B would be to buy a really good catcher's mitt, and see if I could judge them as they came in and catch one of 'em! :lol:

As far as conventional attacks on the US, never gonna happen. No army or Navy could get withing 20 miles of the coast, so "Red Dawn" is never going to happen, although I wouldn't mind being trapped in a shelter with Leah Thompson! :D

80sTrivia
11-26-02, 08:20 AM
Living in hurricane country, I always have an emergency survival kit on hand, with several gallons of purified water along with water purification tablets, blankets, extra clothing, batteries and radio, canned and processed food, can opener, flashlight, and some extra-cash stored in a plastic baggie. We've actually been experiencing several earth tremors in the area and scientists are predicting a moderate-to-major earthquake within the next several years! :bigeek: The last one leveled Charleston in 1886! Charleston is a resilient city, however, as it has been destroyed on three separate occasions: During the Civil War it was virtually burned to the ground, the Great Earthquake of 1886 and Hurricane Hugo in 1989! This city has been trampled more times than Tokyo! :lol: So, it pays to be prepared! :)

Shakey
11-26-02, 09:04 AM
I plan on running around and screaming like a blistering idiot! Then again, the first part of Pagan's plan sounds like a real winner also. :D

Seriously though, I deal with life one day at a time and if it happens to be my last day, then so be it. The day will come when it will be my last day and nothing can change that, so I figure, why worry about it? I'm just going to live my life as I see fit and that doesn't include worrying about what might happen or being afraid of an attack by the chodes of the world.

Recker
11-26-02, 03:21 PM
No plan here, all though I guess we in New Zealand tend to feel a little safe when it comes to attacks by other countries. We probably shouldn't. And I agree with Pagan, if a nuclear bomb is coming our way, you're better off being right in the middle of it than trying to escape it.

All though we get very little earthquakes, it's always something that we are warned could happen and we should be prepared. Fortunately we get no tornados or hurricanes. The biggest threat for us is probably volcanic activity as we have a few hot spots in various places. One of our major mountains erupted a few years back. I guess when it comes down to it, we have it pretty sweet down here.

LOSTNTHE80S
11-26-02, 03:55 PM
I think I'll just pull up a chair beside Pagan! LOL!

Seriously though..I don't have any sort of plan mapped out. I have survived alot so whatever is to be will be. (Que sera sera..anyone see Doris Day around here? :))

Shortie Blonde
11-26-02, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by Pagan
I think I posted this once before somewhere....but my plan in case of nuclear attack is simple.

Grab a beach chair, a bong and a good pair of sunglasses. Climb to the highest point in my town, which would be the mountain next to I84. Sit in the chair, spark up a bowl, and watch the nukes come over the horizon.

Why would I try to survive? So I can climb out of a shelter later on to a devastated world and slowly die of radiation poisoning? No spank you....I'll party as they come in.



I second that. :D:lol:

Umm...hope I'm with Teddie and sit together, talk about (in case we don't make it) how great life was and how much I love people. :p

Ted Nugent
11-26-02, 05:54 PM
Originally posted by Shortie Blonde


Umm...hope I'm with Teddie and sit together, talk about (in case we don't make it) how great life was and how much I love people. :p

I shall use your body as a shield against the nuclear attack. :lol:

If there ever was one I'd just like a little warning before it does come so I can do the whole "tell everyone you love them" thing cuz I don't plan on surviving if it does happen. Although it'd be kinda cool to be one of just a few hundred people.

Shortie Blonde
11-26-02, 05:58 PM
Originally posted by Ted Nugent


I shall use your body as a shield against the nuclear attack. :lol:

My brother just said that's a waste of a blonde. :lol:

If there ever was one I'd just like a little warning before it does come so I can do the whole "tell everyone you love them" thing cuz I don't plan on surviving if it does happen. Although it'd be kinda cool to be one of just a few hundred people.

That's what I'd try to do even though it would be hard.

Sarg
11-26-02, 09:17 PM
No plan here....... Pagan's idea works for me! If a nuclear bomb is coming, there's not much more you can do. By the time you knew about it coming and spotted it you'd only have enough time to say, :bigeek:"OH SHI............" and it would be overwith.

Ted Nugent
11-26-02, 09:25 PM
Originally posted by Sarg
No plan here....... Pagan's idea works for me! If a nuclear bomb is coming, there's not much more you can do. By the time you knew about it coming and spotted it you'd only have enough time to say, :bigeek:"OH SHI............" and it would be overwith.

Didn't they teach you to hide under your desk in case of a nuclear attack when you were in grade school? Real lot of good that 4" thick desk will do. LOL

Caligula
11-26-02, 09:46 PM
I'm more concerned with natural disaster's, ice storms and power outages, I have candles, woodstove, diesel generator somewhere in the garage.

I try not to let issues like biological weapons and nuclear bombs occupy my mind too much,no use getting overly excited or worried about something that in all chances won't happen, when disaters like tornado's , floods, and earthquakes and hurricades are far more common to certain area's

Jazzmyn
11-27-02, 01:12 AM
I don't have any plans. Never really given it much thought. If it happens, it happens. I'll deal with it then.

nolanbuc
11-27-02, 01:55 AM
my disaster response plan is very simple, yet effective:

Step 1: Bend over

Step 2: Kiss my ass goodbye. :lol:

Seriously, we have always tried to anticipate what we'd do in a serious emergency. We have fire drills regularly at our house, for instance.

If push ever really comes to shove, I'll make my way with the family down to my parents' place in the country...or "Fort Buc" as we like to call it. Generators, water, loads of food stored up, and enough guns and ammo to hunt for our eats or fight off a small army. Even a cellar to hide in if need be. It would be a spartan existence, but if we could get through an huge ice storm and the following 6 weeks w/o electricity, we'd manage.

bigcozy
11-27-02, 02:19 AM
I was just wondering about what your thoughts were. Everyone seemed to key on a nuclear threat, by conventional I meant non nuclear.

Here are some things to think about.

Iraq was developing nuclear weapons in the 70's and 80's, Israel wiped that out, they still have the same people involved. After the Gulf War the UN destroyed 13 MILLION pounds of chemical and biological weapons, and we all probably agree they never got around to the real stuff he was hiding. Iraq has used both Sarin and biologics on the Kurds and Iranian soldiers. The worst chem agent in the world is VX, it is estimated Iraq has 400 tons of VX. And that is just Iraq.

Right now there are nuclear packages declared in: US, Russia, Britian, France, China, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Belraus, Pakistan (who created the Taliban), India, North Korea, and about 90 percent chance are the following: Argentina, Brazil, Iraq, South Africa (these were supposed to be destoryed), South Korea, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan, Australia, Canada, Germany, Japan, Israel, Iran, Lybia, and the Netherlands. There are in the ten of thousands of nuclear packages out there in every part of the world.

It is impossible to rule out a major nuclear strike, period. Too many people have them, and the delivery platforms are getting better every day. Right now there are over 100 times more high order weapons, and more accurate, pointed to the US than in the Cuban missile crisis. North Korea, China, and Russia can't always pay their military, and things get sold.

You can survive a nuclear attack. Several families survived Hiroshima in simple earth and wood bomb shelter less than a mile from ground zero. Most of what we know comes from the media and it is not accurate. Based on the 1948-1991 mode of a Soviet Wolf Pack strike, it was assumed that multiple warhead (MeRV) attacks on cities and military stikes would happen. These attacks would certainly wipe out entire cities, but it would not kill everyone in the US. You have probably heard there are enough nukes to kill everyone in the world. The only way that is true is if everyone in the world got into a densely packed area. The truth is, in the event of an all out strike, most of the world wouldn't be hit, and only have the marginal effects of fallout. You have probably heard of "Nuclear Winter", first put forth by German scientist Paul Crutzen, and later championed and made a star of Carl Sagan. This has roundly been refuted, but several movies have been made about it as if it were true.

Odds are it will be a single package, probably in a large, dense city. The delivery system is the key. A good system and high order weapon would be very destructive, but it would hardly wipe out an entire region, and probably not even a large city. Most weapons now are actually getting smaller and have smaller yields. In a desire to build lighter weapons, the packages have become smaller, efficient, and less dirty (radioactive) a sort of strange irony. Can a wood desk help? Yes, if you are out of shock wave range, anything between you and radioactivity helps, and you are more likely to be killed by debris.

Just my opinion. I keep two days of everything in a North Face backpack. If something happened, and it could be a natural disaster or otherwise, I would leave. The absolute second I knew what was up. Every second wasted you can be ingesting something nasty. The car stays gassed up, jump in, run the AC on recirculate to pressurize interior of the car, and just about anywhere you are go West, against the prevailing winds. Don't touch the outside of your car when you get out.

I don't want to be a drag, but I do want you to think about it. The most minute of preparations can make a huge difference.

LOSTNTHE80S
11-27-02, 08:22 AM
Bigcozy..
I totally understand what you mean and it's really something to think about. I just don't know where I would start. I know that my main concern would be if my husband and children were safe and we were all together.
Up until a year ago, I think we thought that it was totally impossible for anything to happen in our safe country. I feel for the people who's countries I see in the news each day. They are constantly having to live with it.

cultleader
11-30-02, 11:03 AM
My plan is too take a deep breath,crack open a Pabst blue ribbon,and have wild passionate sex with someone I love(probably myself :D)and if through some miricle I survive this nuclear(or chemical)holocost,I'll form an army of psychotic misfits and we'll wander the wasteland in search of gasoline and tight fitting leather clothing to plunder from unsuspecting wimpy people who just want to be left alone to eek out some kind of life in the harsh aftermath of.............

Well you all get the point!

That Guy Next Door
11-30-02, 11:21 AM
Well, funny, but it's something I think alot about, always had. I'm the kinda of person who's never comfortable anywhere, since I always been somewhat of an outcast, I always plan how to get by all on my own, besides hanging with fire fighters got me a tatse of how normal life can allready be harsh and cruel, you don't need a war, sometimes a freak accident is enough to require all of your survival skills .... trust me ..... I always take a good look at the places where I go .... where are the emergency exits, how many people can you safely put in ... how many places someone can hide outta sight .... I basically hate having someone in my blind corner where I can't see what he's doing , .... I'm always readying myself for things ... I guess all my training and stuffs is really in big part due to my paranoid side .....

TGND " Some guy, somewhere ... go jerk your - beep - elsewhere you - beep - !!!! "

cultleader
11-30-02, 10:02 PM
some people just take things way too seriously!:D

Bambi
12-01-02, 10:59 PM
Well, living close to Central Command (MacDill AirForce Base) I figure that's one of the Ground Zero's...
No plans here. Just sit back and watch the fireworks.

I would not want to be around after a nuclear attack. I have visions of "Mad Max" or "Water World"

I have a friend that has a "bunker" in Tennessee. They have invited me there incase something like that were to happen. I was invited there in 1999 as well...when the world was supposed to come to an end at Midnight on Dec. 31st...

Seriously, how can you really prepare yourself unless you know what kind of an attack it's going to be? What are you supposed to do, walk around with a gas mask in your purse?

Recker
12-01-02, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by Bambi
I have a friend that has a "bunker" in Tennessee. They have invited me there incase something like that were to happen. I was invited there in 1999 as well...when the world was supposed to come to an end at Midnight on Dec. 31st...


Did you go? :lol:

Bambi
12-02-02, 11:26 AM
Nope, didn't go!
But they did!

TopCat
12-03-02, 04:42 AM
I don't worry about it. (least, I did not much until I read this thread. :irked: ) Not a whole lot I can do anyways. :p

Mary
12-04-02, 11:31 AM
This thread is giving me flashbacks to The Day After!

As far as nuclear war/etc. goes, I'm with those who would rather go quickly than by radiation poisoning or starvation or any of those situations.

Childhood habit has made me always prepared for the power/water/etc. to go out. (I grew up in the sticks, and our power went out all the time... we had a well, so there was no water either if the electricity was gone) I know I don't really have to do it in the city, but I still fill up the bathtub and every water bottle I can get my hands on when it looks like it's going to be nasty outside. The last real experience I had of the sort was the Ice Storm of '98... boy, was that fun, not!

People in Rhode Island are so funny when it starts to snow... even a couple inches... they all make a run on bread & milk at the store. Their memories of the blizzard of '78 are still fresh. LOL.

Give me some canned food, water, a couple flashlights, a battery radio, and some blankets and I'm fine for a couple days at least :)