View Full Version : Junk e-mail


Boggle
6-22-02, 03:31 PM
I was wondering if there is a program that can be installed on the computer that gets rid of junk email? I have a laptop which I know when I go to open it , I'll have a lot of mail, of which probably 99 percent of it is junk. I have Outlook Express as my email.

80sSmurf
6-22-02, 03:43 PM
Hmmm dunno, I never use OE .... But there should be a spam filter somewhere in that sucker .... Try looking in Functions --> Preferences (kkep in mind, that I'm using a danish version, so option names may differ ;) )

aaron
6-22-02, 06:10 PM
I don't use Outlook anymore. I used Netscape for YEARS but got sick of the bugs, so I don't use it for email anymore. I used OE for about a year, until I realized that its TOTALLY proprietary. Once you got the email in there, you CAN'T export it out. You have to use a twisted method to get it to a text file on disk.

Once I found that out, I was PISSED and never used that pathetic excuse again. Outlook just sucks. On top of that, the majority of email viruses are written for Outlook. I use Eudora now and it has never succumed to an email virus.

Anyway, most emailers offer the option to block an email address, but that still allows your email server to pick it up.

The best thing to do is contact your ISP, have the spam addresses available, and have them block those addresses on their server.

That's the only other way I know how.

Never reply to spam or go to their web site and add your email address to the removal page. It almost never works right, and when you reply, it effectively tells those pricks spamming you that your address is valid, and to keep the spam coming. VERY rarely will you get removed from a list.

Iluvthe80s
6-22-02, 08:41 PM
I know that AOL and Earthlink has junk email filters if you want to use them. Just contact your internet service to find out if they offer some kind of filter.

aaron
6-22-02, 08:55 PM
The only way to ultimately block junk mail is through the server. I have tried those filter programs and they are so flawed.

On top of that, some of them read the header or subject to determine if the message is junk. Well, how about this:

FREE TEEN PICTURES IN YOUR MAIL DAILY!!!

or:

hey boggle/iluvthe80s, heres a site to get free email at

Well if the filter uses "free" as the keyword, then you will loose other mail with that word in it. Ok you take out the word free and have it remove the word "teen", then you could have this problem:

free hardcore teen sex pictures

or

heres my picture when I was in my teens

Well, the last email was something you wanted, and because the filter blocked it, you won't get it.

See where I'm heading? The filter idea is great, but flawed. I see this happen all the time. Software filters are often based on keywords.

The best thing to do is save the junk mail, that way you still have the email addresses and headers. Contact your ISP and have them block the server from receiving email from that user. The only problem is national ISPs. The idiots at AT&T, AOL, Earthlink, and so forth probably won't do this and will recommend you use software to filter.

While software filtering can be good, it is very unreliable and prone to flaws. Take it from me. I work in hosting for a living and deal with spam daily.

Not trying to put down the idea Stacy. It is a good idea, but unfortunately it doesn't work very well in most cases.

But certainly give it a shot. The worst that will happen is it won't block the junk mail.

Iluvthe80s
6-22-02, 09:11 PM
This is the choices AOL gives you for e-mail:

*Allow e-mail from all AOL members, e-mail addresses, and domains.

*Allow e-mail from all AOL members. Block e-mail from all others.

*Allow e-mail from all AOL members, and from the listed domains and e-mail addresses. Block e-mail from all others.

*Allow e-mail from the listed AOL members, e-mail addresses, and domains. Block e-mail from all others.

*Block e-mail from the listed AOL members, e-mail addresses, and domains. Allow e-mail from all others.

What I use is the one that uses listed AOL members, e-mail addresses, and domains. This keeps from getting junk e-mails. I pretty much know who I want e-mails from and what businesses or sites I want e-mails from. Since I have used this, it has cut down considerably on uneccessary e-mails. I know nothing is 100% effective, but it does help.

Shakey
6-23-02, 04:19 AM
I don't get any spam in my POP mail account for the simple reason that I don't use it. I use a web based account and have my filters set in place. Does fairly well.

I can never get tired of saying this... If there are any spammers reading this - YOU SUCK!!! :p

There is a way to set up filters in OE, although I don't believe that they are as effective as in Outlook.

In the toolbar, click on "Tools" and then on "Message Rules". A menu should open up and you can now chose "Mail". From there you are on your own as to how you want to set up your rule. It's pretty self explanatory though. Hope this helped. :)

space-invader
6-23-02, 08:53 AM
one thing you might consider doing is when you sign up for ANYTHING (and i mean ANYTHING...software, mailing lists, sign up for websites, etc), use some crappy web email address (hotmail, yahoo, etc) and never use your proper email address that you check every day

my proper email addresses never get spam (except jokes from one friend of mine which is getting close :lol: ) cause i only give it out to people i trust

Boggle
6-23-02, 02:06 PM
Here is the end result when I checked the mail on my laptop (I don't check the mail there very often--the last I checked mail there was the 1st week of March):

New unread messages: 4803
Total time to download all the messages: 1hr, 15min

This was all during a three-and-a-half month period.

I went to the "messages" option and then went to "mail rules" and set up my criteria. I put in basic terms such as "credit, loan, cash,", etc. as most of the junk mail involves that. However, this time around I'll still have to manually delete the 4000 plus mails out of the box since there were no rules in place before.:mad:

I also called my ISP. They said they are just starting to implement a junk mail filter and the number of junk mails I receive should come down. Evidently there was no junk filter implemented the last I checked my mail. Hopefully between this and setting up a filter I should see a BIG decrease in the amount of junk mail I receive in the future.

Thanks for all of your help:)

space-invader
6-24-02, 07:38 AM
Originally posted by Boggle
Here is the end result when I checked the mail on my laptop (I don't check the mail there very often--the last I checked mail there was the 1st week of March):

New unread messages: 4803
Total time to download all the messages: 1hr, 15min




HOLY SPAMMING EMAILS BATMAN!!!!! :bigeek:

80sSmurf
6-24-02, 09:44 AM
David, you should seriously consider using something like Linuxmail, Myrealbox or any other netmail. Most of them have good spamfliters and a decent policy on spamming in general, and should you ever find yourself spammed nonetheless, you can always change to another adress :)

I've been using Linuxmail for at least 18 months now, and I'm yet to recieve any spam.

Oh and whenever you're asked for your e-mail, unless it's something where you need a reply (like signing up to a message board etc.) just type in some crap ;)

Also, make sure all your friends and relatives know that you're not interested in jokes, chainmail etc. Eventually these will end up at some assclowns desk, and all he has to do is copy & paste to promote his product .... Grrrr