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80sSmurf 3-25-02, 05:40 PM Thought a nice little emulator thread would be in place :)
These things have a huge crowd of followers you know, and I know at least one or two on the xchange use them (besides me), and there's bound to more of you out there ;)
Why I like 'em ? Simple, they enable me to play all my old time fave games, relieve some of those magical moments from my childhood :p
Genesis, NES, SNES, Amiga & even the old arcade machines are all perfectly (or almost in some cases) emulated. It's so much fun to take a spin with Sonic or go ghoul hunting in Ghosts'n'Goblins, really a great way to reminisce....aaah.
I don't care about the newer systems that are emulated (ie. Nintendo 64, Playstation, GBA etc.), it seems to me these are used by people who are too stingy to get out and buy one, just another way to play (almost) new games for free. I can understand why it must be challenge to emulate a new system, I just don't see a use for these emu's yet. I like to think of emulation as a way to preserve old systems and their gamecatalogue...Making sure we can enjoy these games and systems for years to come :)
Maybe it's just me getting old, I dunno, anyway, I'd like to hear my fellowxchangers' thoughts on emulators :)
Roemello 3-25-02, 05:44 PM The first thing I got when I got my computer was an NES emulator....I was in nostalgic heaven playing all those old games again :D Now years later, I have every emu for every system (except the newer platforms....I'm not stingy...I buy my own :D).
My most recent interest has been MAME...awesome playing all those old arcade games I used to love...and some I've never got the chance to try :)
Bottom line...Emulators rule!! :D
80sSmurf 3-25-02, 05:54 PM Originally posted by Roemello
...My most recent interest has been MAME...awesome playing all those old arcade games I used to love...and some I've never got the chance to try :)
MAME is indeed very very cool :cool: Thanx to ye ol' #5-key I finally got to see the end of SMASH TV (I bow in the dust to whoever finished that on 1 coin) & Double Dragon :D
:lol: When I finally beat G'n'G (after 12 years waiting) I was shocked to find out that I didn't...You have to finish that motherflucker 3 times in a row...Ahhh well gives me something usefull to do during Easter ;) :D
And Roem, I agree...Emu's ROCK !!!! :p
Originally posted by Roemello
My most recent interest has been MAME...awesome playing all those old arcade games I used to love...and some I've never got the chance to try :)
Bottom line...Emulators rule!! :D
I agree! Thanks again for introducing me to MAME, Roem. It is the coolest emulator out there. I have played Tapper so much I almost started to like beer.
And Smurf, did you really complete G'n'G?? That's disgusting considering how hard that game is. I can't believe that anyone can go through it three times in a row.
Roemello 3-25-02, 10:32 PM I've beaten GnG once...I don't have the patience to do that 3 times though....heeeeeeells no :lol::p As for Tapper...I hear ya Flix. I still ain't going near beer, but that game is addictive as hell. Even though I suck at it....get to those levels where the tables are on the left and right and just get overwhelmed :eek::p
One game I used to love and can still beat in one "quarter" is Black Tiger. Forgotten Worlds is another fun one I got some months back :cool:
The only emu I have played with for an extended period of time was a TI99 emulator so I could play an old game called "Tunnels of Doom". It was a great dungeon style adventure game.
80sSmurf 3-26-02, 01:26 AM Originally posted by Flix
...And Smurf, did you really complete G'n'G?? That's disgusting considering how hard that game is. I can't believe that anyone can go through it three times in a row.
Like Roem I didn't exactly beat it, I got thru' it once and found out I needed to beat it twice more...Couldn't be bothered to do that (maybe if MAME supported savetstates I could) :)
Shakey...What's a TI99 ? (specs and such). Haven't heard of that, sounds like the name of a calculator ;)
RetroMan 3-26-02, 01:41 AM Great topic Smurf
I grew up with with the classic Commodore64, I got one the day they were first released and I suddenly had a sudden influx of friends coming around my house after school!! :lol: mr popularity!my homework certainly took a back seat as well!
As time took it's toll on my prized system (through constant use and sticky kid fingers) one day it suddenly shat itself....years and years passed and I joined the PC age and discovered the CCS64 commodore64 Emulator - what a literal >>>BLAST<<< from the past! I thought the whole concept of vintage emualtors was the coolest thing ever. I was having the most amazing flashbacks while playing all the old games again, they're still as playable as they were back then! - I've got a CCS94 icon/shortcut directly on my desktop that says: LETS GO RETRO!
nolanbuc 3-26-02, 06:15 AM I have tried a few good emus and enjoyed them alot, but I have to say MAME is my fave also! (I am another convert of the Roem) :D
With my Gravis GamePad Pro controller (thanks again, Roem for the recommendation):thumb: I can play Galaga til my thumbs hurt! :D
Roemello 3-26-02, 09:39 AM I made it a mission to spread the word about emulation :D There's thousands of games to be played out there....and it's all FREE!
Set free your nostalgia....join the emulation revolution :thumb::lol::p
80sSmurf 3-26-02, 11:54 AM Originally posted by RetroMan
Great topic Smurf
I grew up with with the classic Commodore64, I got one the day they were first released and I suddenly had a sudden influx of friends coming around my house after school!! :lol: mr popularity!my homework certainly took a back seat as well!
:lol: another thing we have in common Retro :p
Loved my C64 no end, staying up all night hoping my mum wouldn't catch me playing (No not that kind of playing...freaks :D, this isn't LL). Great titles that spring to mind are Bruce Lee, Boulder Dash, Up'n'Down, Tiger Mission, Green Beret, International Karate, BagMan and the lists go on...I even remember playing Dragon's Lair, whoa talk about shitty gfx :p
My first computer was actually a Spectrum ZX81 :lol: had to punch in the games from a book and save them to a tape afterwards :D
I wonder if a ZX81-emu has been made...Hmmmm....Something to check out tonight :)
Poison PJ 3-26-02, 01:10 PM I'm an emu Junkie. I Have Emulators for almost every system. My Faves Are MAME for arcade, Gens For Genesis, Snesx9, Nesticle For NES & Visual Boy Adavance For GB
I visited MAME. With all the technical information and games that are and are not emulated is confusing. :confused: How do I go about selecting a game to download? How's Dragon's Lair for the arcade?
Roemello 3-26-02, 04:43 PM I wouldn't go to MAME for MAME related stuff (I know, weird but they're no help in their site :lol: )
The place you need to go for all your MAME needs is: http://www.mame.dk
EDIT: NEVERMIND!! I just checked the site and it seems they've been forced to shut down their service because of them flucking greedy game developing sons a bitches!! :mad:
Now let me tell you how I really feel.....:laugh:
80sSmurf 3-26-02, 04:56 PM Originally posted by boggle400
I visited MAME. With all the technical information and games that are and are not emulated is confusing. :confused: How do I go about selecting a game to download? How's Dragon's Lair for the arcade?
Hey Boogle :)
Bad news 1st: Dragon's lair isn't emulated yet, and it's gonna be a looooooooooooong time before it will be, since it uses laserdisc for graphics...It's not a standard cpu-board based arcade game, so you can't really dump it (to make it a playable rom), you'll have to rip the actual Dragon's lair laserdisc (would take a very very very very looong time), sorry.
Have you downloaded MAME yet ?
If not post in here and I'm sure the lot of us will do our best to help you out :)
If you're new to MAME you might wanna take a look at these sites
http://www.mameworld.net/easyemu
http://www.mame.dk
As for downloading roms, well this is a grey area...As you may or may not know programming, downloading, having etc an emulator isn't illegal. Any amulator you find out there is perfectly legal, since it's basically a piece of softeware designed to emulate (duh ;) ) a piece of hardware.
The roms on the other hand are very illegal to have if you don't own the original game. That said, there are actually legal roms on the net, these are mostly demos made by various groups, or old games the developer's don't care about, thus making them freeware.
I don't know the rules regarding romsites on the xchange, but seeing that most boards out there don't allow this, I think this would also apply to the 80sxchange, sorry no romlinks from Smurf.
I hope this long rant was of some use to ya Boogle, if not please feel free to yell at me :D and tell me to me more specific and get to the fluckin' point :lol:
80sSmurf 3-26-02, 04:58 PM Originally posted by Roemello
EDIT: NEVERMIND!! I just checked the site and it seems they've been forced to shut down their service because of them flucking greedy game developing sons a bitches!! :mad:
Now let me tell you how I really feel.....:laugh:
Yup MAME.dk got shut down for the 2nd time in a year less than 2 weeks ago...Grrrr...Guess Metal Slug, Marvel Super Heroes and all the other new arcade games did the job :mad:
Damn looks like Roem just beat me :D That's what you get for ranting StupidRantingSmurf ;)
Roem is it allright to post romlinks in here ?
Roemello 3-26-02, 05:03 PM You mean direct links to ROMS? I'd prefer posting sites that have a good ROM selection, but I guess a few couldn't hurt....:p
80sSmurf 3-26-02, 05:17 PM No I don't mean posting directly to the rom, I mean posting a romsite that has everything Really :)
Just one problem, they also have n64-roms, PS1-isos and other very illegal stuff, but if ya say go Smurf I'll go....Posting the site that is, what were you thinking ;)
RetroMan 3-26-02, 06:40 PM [QUOTE]Originally posted by 80sSmurf
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:lol: another thing we have in common Retro :p
Loved my C64 no end, staying up all night hoping my mum wouldn't catch me
Ha ha! right on Smurf! I remember all those games so well! I remember thinking Bruce Lee was the best game ever because you could take turns with your mates at being either Bruce or that big green guy, and you can gang up on that little ninja that aimlessly runs around. Recently I found a Windows remake of the game and it's identical, right down to the last blocky pixel!
I spent hours on Boulder Dash and when Boulder Dash Construction kit came out, I would make levels for my brother and laugh at him as he attempted them, and he would do the same to me! man, what great memories!
In Up'n'Down! the car used to 'suddenly' be able to 'jump' other cars with a push of a button! you could even change lanes like it!
Did you know that the International Karate games were made here in Australia by a company called Melboune House? I only found out a few years ago!! they made International Karate I & II and also IK+ along with 'The Way Of The Exploding Fist' and Fist II
I can't believe that 'punch in the goolies' sneaky move, they never had that in Street Fighter or Mortal Combat! :lol:
Yeah Dragon's Lair!! ha ha ha ha!! everyone was expecting the ground greaking arcade version! ha! what a crappy version the C64's version was!
oh my gosh! a Spectrum ZX81! didn't those things have big square rubber keys? how retro is that!
80sSmurf 3-26-02, 07:22 PM Ahh yes BD con. kit. Good game, easy to use, I had more fun builing stages than actually playing them :p
Exploding Fist, thanx for reminding me Retro, I couldn't remember the title...Great game. If memory serves the 1st was kind of like a IK clone, & the 2nd was a walking-beat 'em up right ?
As for my ZX81, yup it had rubber keys, and I thought it looked very cool at the time :)
Polar Bear Jeff 3-26-02, 08:10 PM I love emulation.
It's not quite the same as the original --playing a NES game on a PC monitor with a Thrustmaster Firestorm gamepad doesn't have the same feeling :D-- yet it's a great way to revive the classics.
My NES and SMS still work, but since they're stashed in the basement somewhere, it's much simpler to fire up an emulator on the PC. :thumb:
RetroMan 3-26-02, 08:42 PM Originally posted by 80sSmurf
If memory serves the 1st was kind of like a IK clone, & the 2nd was a walking-beat 'em up right ?
Yeah, after playing the 1st for so long, when the 2nd came out it was like, TOTALLY state of the art because you could walk!! not the smoothest animated walk, but the background moved! he he!
I checked out the Easyemu site, then went to the MAMEWORLD site. Is MAME the main (parent) emulator for the other emulator systems (e.g. Raine, Calice, etc.) or are they all different? There's so much info it's all confusing. Anyway of translating a technical tutorial (the basic installation process) into plain English?:confused: :D
I read what Roem said about the mame.dk site. Does that mean downloading games has come to a screeching halt?
That sucks Dragon's Lair isn't emulated. Even though I couldn't get past the 1st room on the arcade, it was still neat and fun to play. The expressions on Dirk the Daring's face were more than fun to watch:) Was looking maybe to beat the game (20 years later);)
Thanks again for your help:)
Polar Bear Jeff 3-26-02, 11:06 PM Originally posted by boggle400
I read what Roem said about the mame.dk site. Does that mean downloading games has come to a screeching halt?
At that site, yes. But with Google, you can find ROM sites that haven't been shut down yet.
ROM sites routinely get shut down because of copyright infrigment, but new ones always take their place.
Originally posted by 80sSmurf
Shakey...What's a TI99 ? (specs and such). Haven't heard of that, sounds like the name of a calculator ;)
Ha. Well, it was made by the calculator people. It was actually a fun computer for its time. Here is a link I found that both explains and shows the TI99 (http://www.vex.net/~guru/ti/ti994nota.htm). It was my stepping stone between the Commodore Vic 20 and the C64.
Roemello 3-26-02, 11:52 PM Hmmm...illegal could be a problem...don't want to comprimise us in any way. You can however PM me the link :D Now that mame.dk is down, I'll be needing some new mame rom depots to go to (preferably ones with little to no pop-ups if possible) :p
80sSmurf 3-27-02, 05:59 AM Originally posted by boggle400
...Is MAME the main (parent) emulator for the other emulator systems (e.g. Raine, Calice, etc.) or are they all different? There's so much info it's all confusing.
You're right Boogle it can be very confusing at times, but don't panic, you don't need to know all sort of shit to run MAME, and you don't need Callice or Raine or any other emu to enjoy your retrogaming fetish ;)
To answer your Q, no MAME is not the parent emu.
Raine, Callice and all the others are emus entirely in their own right, they simply emulate different kind of arcade cpu boards. A cpuboard is where the game is stored (kind of like a computer dedicated to play only a few games).
Different developers have different cpuboards (or systems), and that's why you'll see different emus. For instance;
Callice emulates the Capcom System 1
Callice32 emulates Capcom System 1 & 2, SEGA System 16 & 18 & Neo Geo (don't me freakked by all these names and numbers, you don't need to know 'em to use any emulator ;) )
Raine aims to emulate all Taito & Jaleco developed games...
...and the list goes on, this would make a very lengthy post if I was to list all emus and what they emulate :)
Hope this made things a little clearer for ya, if not, well just ask again and again and again 'till you get the answer you want :D
Originally posted by boggle400
Anyway of translating a technical tutorial (the basic installation process) into plain English?
I'll be more than happy to guide you thru' downloading the right version of MAME, installing it and using it....But first I'll need to know what OS you're using (Linux, Windows, MacOS ??) ?
Originally posted by boggle400
...I read what Roem said about the mame.dk site. Does that mean downloading games has come to a screeching halt?
Nope, and it's highly unlikely it ever will be...PM me and I'll give the url of a nice site with ALL MAME roms & no pop-ups ;)
Which reminds me...Roem check your in-box, I left you a li'l something...Nooo it's not a turd ;)
Roemello 3-27-02, 09:34 AM Originally posted by 80sSmurf
Nope, and it's highly unlikely it ever will be...PM me and I'll give the url of a nice site with ALL MAME roms & no pop-ups ;)
Which reminds me...Roem check your in-box, I left you a li'l something...Nooo it's not a turd ;)
LOL....I got it, thanks :D Since my zip drive went caput a while back, I've been MAMEless since my ROM collection is all on disks....need to be tied over til I get a new comp late this year :p
80sSmurf 3-27-02, 10:50 AM No problem Roem (I expect to see my postcount magically go to around 8k after this ;) :D ) and..erh...you might wanna check your in-box again ;)
Originally posted by Shakey
Ha. Well, it was made by the calculator people. It was actually a fun computer for its time. Here is a link I found that both explains and shows the TI99 (http://www.vex.net/~guru/ti/ti994nota.htm). It was my stepping stone between the Commodore Vic 20 and the C64.
The TI99/4A had some pretty neat games! :D I remember playing Zero Zap, Slymoids, and Munchmobile all of the time. There was another game I played all of the time which you retrieved stones from the planet surface while getting rid of the enemy (can't remember the name of it).
Remember the Voice Synthesizer that came with it? I also played Star Trek a lot, which used the synthesizer. :)
....."watch out for mines, Captain" <Star Trek for TI99/4A>
80sSmurf 3-27-02, 04:17 PM Hey Boggle here's the info you requested :)
Start by following this link: http://www.mame.dk/emulators
In the box named allWinMAME (BASE) , click mame059b.zip this is the latest version of MAME, and will allow you to play all MAME supported roms.
Once downloaded, unzip into the folder of your choice (let's use c:\mame for this introduction shall we :p ).
If you open the folder named mame059b you'll be presented with 10 subfolders and various files (Check some of the .txt files for some help on using MAME).
Only the folder named roms is important for now, this is the folder you put your roms (games) in. I can't provide you any links in here yet (check your in-boz), but let's say you have already downloaded the game Ghosts'n'nGoblins. You simply unzip the file into your roms folder (c:\mame\mame059b\roms).
The rom will have the name gng...NOTE! Never rename your roms, MAME won't recoqnize them...
To play this fine game, either start up dos, or click on START-->Run... Type: command and you'll be presented with a dosprompt...(Press enter after each command)
Type: cd mame
Type: cd mame059b
You're now ready to take a journey down Memory Lane.
To play Ghosts'n'Goblins type: mame gng -joy
(I'm assuming you have a joystick/pad, if not leave out -joy)
Mame will now load the game Ghosts'n'Goblins.
Here's a handfull of usefull keys when using MAME:
5=coin slot a
6=coin slot b
1=1 player start
2=2 player start
Tab=dipswitch ie. setting difficulty, lifes, setting controls, reset rom etc. Remember to reset the game to make any changes in here take effect.
Esc.=Quit MAME / previous menu
These are all you need for know...When you feel a bit more comfortable using MAME we'll take this a step up ok ? ...and don't hesitate to ask for help, that's what we're all here for :)
Johnny Z 3-27-02, 11:22 PM Ah, MAME. My most favorite computer game system. ;) I think my "Z" and "X" keys will be the first to wear out because of MAME. :)
I've played lots of my old favorites on MAME. My favorites are Bad Dudes v. Dragoninja, Time Pilot, Time Pilot '84, Rush 'n' Attack, Joust, and Tapper. (I'm probably the only person that deliberately screws up the bonus round in Tapper, just to see the results -WHOOSH :lol: )
I'd recommend getting the Windows 32-bit version of MAME rather than the DOS version, unless it's a really OLD computer. The 16-bit DOS version has trouble handling some of the more recent games (1987 or later) and really slows down. The DOS version also occasionally locks up, which is annoying. The Windows version also handles joystick controls better, which is essential for playing some games well (Space Harrier and Star Wars spring to mind).
Originally posted by Boggle
The TI99/4A had some pretty neat games!
Yes, it did. And, yep. I remember the speech synthesizer. That was the first computer that I had the full system to. Expansion box, disk drives, the whole bit. I have thought about trying to get one off of ebay just for fun. Maybe I'll go take a look.
80sSmurf 3-28-02, 06:32 AM Originally posted by Johnny Z
I'd recommend getting the Windows 32-bit version of MAME rather than the DOS version, unless it's a really OLD computer. The 16-bit DOS version has trouble handling some of the more recent games (1987 or later) and really slows down. The DOS version also occasionally locks up, which is annoying. The Windows version also handles joystick controls better, which is essential for playing some games well (Space Harrier and Star Wars spring to mind).
I always use WinMAME (base), never had any problems what so ever (runnin' on AMD 750mhz, 256 megs ram, tnt2 32megs gxf). Joypads, sound, framerate everything is top notch, it's just as fast and reliable as MAME32. I actually find MAME32 to have an inferior gfx, the screen is a li'l smudgy (?) and the color palette seems a little darker to me. In the end it's a matter of preference :)
Polar Bear Jeff 3-28-02, 04:53 PM I haven't played MAME for sssoo long. I've mostly been playing NES games on the PC lately. Memories......
80sSmurf 3-29-02, 01:00 PM I only play NES & SNES from time to time, what's ur fave NES emu Jeff ?
I'm using RockNESX, works like a charm :thumb:
Polar Bear Jeff 3-30-02, 01:17 PM I use JNES. Excellent all-around emulator, with good sound, compability and gamepad support (I play with my Thrustmaster Firestorm Dual Power).
For the SNES, I like Snes9X.
Roemello 3-30-02, 03:21 PM NES emulators...I'm still WICKED old school when it comes to that...still using my trusty dusty NESticle :lol: For SNES it's gotta be ZSNES. I tried that snes9x thingie a couple years ago and thought it sucked ass myself, but that's just me :p
Polar Bear Jeff 3-30-02, 03:57 PM I tried ZSNES, but never had any problems with snes9x. I don't use it often, though.
chasms for the SMS and gens for the Genesis work well too.
Roemello 3-30-02, 04:06 PM I'm still in the stone age for genesis emulators too..:lol: Going with the NESticle tradition, I use Genecyst....just got really used to that kinda GUI I guess :p
80sSmurf 3-30-02, 04:38 PM Well we can sit here and discuss what emu is better for an eternity, fact is: there are at least 3-4 emus for each 8-bit & 16-bit gamesystem, and they all have something like 95-99% compatability...In the end it's all a matter of taste and preferences :)
I like Gens too Jeff...It's fast, reliable, got 99% compat. updated regularly and now comes with SEGA cd emulation, nice :thumb:
I won't make any comments on Chasms since I never tried it, for my SMS needs I use MEKA...
As for ZSNES (which I use myself) and Snes9x there's not much of a difference...ZSNES has a bit better compatability & sound but that's basically it :)
Now Roem, it looks like I'll have to kick you into the 21st century myself (which BTW will be my pleasure :D)
I don't know what compatabilty and speed NESticle has, but that thing's been dead since 98...Discontinued...Maybe, juuuuuuuust maybe it's time you got up from that rocking-chair and tried something new ;) :p
U should give RockNES a try...I know it was last updated in july, but apparently it's being rebuild as we speak.
Roemello 3-30-02, 04:47 PM I know all about what's what :lol: Actually, I did dl a new NES one that I got for my sister when I set her comp up a month or so ago.....FCE Ultra...very nice piece if I do say so myself :cool:
80sSmurf 3-30-02, 04:56 PM I know that you know Roem, but they don't know that you know...Now can I kick ya ;) :D
Can't say that I ever tried FCE Ultra, I've seen it on all the emu-sites, but much like you, I figured, why get this when what I've got works just fine (guess this is when you get to kick me :p)
Roemello 3-30-02, 05:01 PM I just went by the ratings at Vimm's Lair in my picking...that was the top, so I rolled with it...works for me! :D
Speaking of which...ever been there? They got every damn NES game ever made I think :eek: Slowest server I've ever had the displeasure of dealing with, but one hell of a selection :cool:
Just for kicks...(no pun intended) **kicks Smurf back in the rear** :hammer::lol:
80sSmurf 3-30-02, 05:14 PM Are you stalking me ? This is getting scary, having you and that damned cat follow me around :lol:
I've been to Vimm's on occation, but like you, the slow dl's bugged me, now I get me SNES roms from HERE (http://translate.google.com/translate_c?hl=en&u=http://www.emulsnes.net/accueil.php3)
Yup another french site, but with a big selection of games, nice dl-speed and pics of many of the games :p Go ahead give it a try, you can do it :D
BTW do you play football, that's one hell of a right leg you've got there buddy, I think I got your footprint on my @ss ;)
Roemello 3-30-02, 05:17 PM **looks up** hey, you responded to me first today bucko :hammer: Now I'm giving you a little helping hand to the Round Table, so zip it and take the help :lol:;)
80sSmurf 3-30-02, 05:31 PM LMAO OK I'll shaddup, but will ya ease up on the hammer, it's really givin' me a headache... *bows head in shame* :D
80sSmurf 4-14-02, 03:55 PM Just a quick update on a few of the best emus (all WIN) :)
RockNESX 2.0 Official (meaning this will not be another beta) should be released today or tomorrow
ZSNES 1.337 & Snes9x hasn't been updated since nov/dec...Both emus have very high compatability, so this is no surprise.
FreezeSMS has reached v3.2 Expect another update soon
Gens v1.90 has recently been released, watch this as it gets updated frequently
WinUAE 0.8.21 release 1 was released on feb 23rd, shouldn't be to long 'till we see release 2
MAME If I were you, I'd hold my breath for a few weeks more :)
That Guy Next Door 4-16-02, 11:36 AM Since I discovered Neo Geo emulation ( not long ago ) I'm hooked ! And in contrary to most game system from Sega and Nintendo, the complexity of the games and beautiful graphic make them not outdated by today games quite the contrary ! Even without nostalgia you can tell these are great games !
TGND " Newbie in emulation ! "
80sSmurf 4-16-02, 03:24 PM The Neo Geo certainly was ahead of it's time, an extremely powerfull gamesmachine indeed...But that also proofed to be it's downfall. It was too expensive for the average gamer, and only gaming afficiandos (sp?) bought it.
But you're right TGND, it's games catalogue is still awesome (even if it's most fighting games). As far as graphics go, I have to disagree with you, it's outdated by todays standards. This is coz the Neo Geo mainly uses pixelated graphics (it's strenght was it's speed and the fact that it could draw much more at once compared to other concoles back in '92) whereas every game today uses advanced vecotr graphics :) It's still a kick ass console tho'
Roemello 4-16-02, 03:41 PM Only one game I liked out of Neo Geo....Magician Lord. I'm not big on the one on one fighting games and not exactly huge on sports games either. Is there anything else good on that that's not of those two genres?
80sSmurf 4-16-02, 04:09 PM Metal Slug is Neo Geo and great fun too...and the best thing is you don't even need a Neo Geo emu to play it, you can play it in MAME (just make sure you have the Neo Geo files too) :D
Shock Troopers, Art of Fighting, Fatal Fury & King of Fighters are also great games :thumb:
Johnny Z 4-16-02, 04:14 PM Magician Lord! Man, what a game... awesome graphics, awesome music, great storyline, and a g*****n f*****g impossible learning curve to master in play! I loved that game, but man, I get less stress going to work! :vibrator:
There's another Neo-Geo category that I'd lump into that category as well: Sengoku. Like Magician Lord, Sengoku is a side-shooter with lots of martial arts/Oriental fantasy/post-apocalyptic overtones. Great artistry, but like Magician Lord, it has a near-impossible learning curve to play. :mad:
Don't think I ever played a Neo Geo. Were they pretty cool? Any good Zelda type adventure games?
80sSmurf 4-17-02, 12:03 PM Yes Shakey they were (and still are) pretty cool :cool:
The Neo Geo console was identical to the Neo Geo arcade cpuboard, thus making perfect arcade "conversions"...It was miles ahead of it's competition, just too bad it was so expensive...
As for RPGs there wasn't really any, since it was aimed towards the arcade gamer...
You can find more info @ http://www.neogeoforlife.com (look out for pop-ups)
Thanks, Smurf. Looks like it had some cool games (mostly fighters). Did see a few that caught my interest though. Mame will run those, right?
Never saw a popup though. Thanks to Opera! It's great for surfing sites that are popup crazy. You can set it not to allow them. :D
80sSmurf 4-18-02, 05:15 AM Not all Neo Geo games are playable in MAME, and those that are, is dumped from the arcade cpuboard (no difference anyway)...Check mame.dk to see if a particular game is playable.
If you really wanna play Neo geo games you should check out NeoRageX (http://home.swipnet.se/~w-50884/emulator/rage.htm) (you can also get it at http://www.emuxhaven.net ). It emulates pretty much every single Neo Geo game :thumb:
What version of Opera are you using ??
I haven't updated mine in ages, so I'm still using v5.1
Emuxhaven is down at the moment (5am NYC time I think), but it will probably be back up in a few hours...I think it's on a crappy server, since this happens at least once a month
80sSmurf 4-18-02, 03:36 PM OK EmuxHaven is back up (as expected)...
News on the emu front:
FreezeSMS is at v4.0, but since this puppy costs money, I suggest you look at DEGA v1.09 or MEKA v0.62b. Both are great SMS emus, and well worth a try :)
RockNESX v2.0 FINAL has been released...However it seems to be buggy (crashing randomly), an update is most likely to be released soon.
The Amiga freaks might get excited about this...WinFellow is currently being ported to WIN32...No news as to when this will be done tho' :)
I run Opera 6.0, Smurf. I don't use it as my main browser, but it is very handy for beating those popup blasting web sites.
80sSmurf 4-19-02, 11:02 AM OK that's it this time it's really time for an update of Opera :p
BTW is anyone interested in the emu news I post, or ????
....I would imagine that the emuusing people on the xchange have their own sources of info...Just curious :)
Never hurts to have a cross reference on emulation, Smurf. Sure, some people may know about it, but others may not. Keep 'em coming. :thumb:
80sSmurf 4-20-02, 09:46 AM OK will do :p
Someone on this board is bound to find it usefull, especially the NES/SNES stuff & MAME :D
80sSmurf 4-21-02, 05:58 AM 2006...Yup if you're using MAME you probably heard this before. It's a joke and then again it isn't....2006 is a refearal to the year when SEGA 16 should be fully emulated in MAME.
At the moment all SEGA drivers are being rewritten from scratch, the old driver's were to buggy and full of glitches due to various hacks implemented when problems occured....So now the devs are rewriting all the drivers from SEGA 16 uo to SEGA 32 :thumb: (that basically covers every single 2D game SEGA has ever released). Looks like we'll have to keep playing Out Run in MAME .36 :D
The MAME WIP page has been updated several times in the last week, that's usually an indication that a new release is just around the corner :p
80sSmurf 4-26-02, 12:37 PM Finally WinUAE got a decent website http://www.winuae.net/ :thumb:
WinUAE 0.8.21 r3 is out...
Am I the only one on the xchange who's into Amiga emulation ?????
If not you might wanna pay this place a visit http://eab.abime.net/index :p
Well, I have never realy tried Amiga emulation, but... Tell me if they have Marble Madness available to emulate and I will probably check it out. That was such a cool game!
Originally posted by Shakey
Well, I have never realy tried Amiga emulation, but... Tell me if they have Marble Madness available to emulate and I will probably check it out. That was such a cool game!
Yeah, Marble Madness is definitely a cool game. Some of those stages are hard. I think I got up to level 6 on the NES version. The fun part was balancing the marble down the narrow paths:)
80sSmurf 4-27-02, 02:58 PM Originally posted by Shakey
Well, I have never realy tried Amiga emulation, but... Tell me if they have Marble Madness available to emulate and I will probably check it out. That was such a cool game!
*scanning for sarcasm* ;) :D
Of coz you can play Marble Madness on an emulator....Actually very few amiga games are unplayable. Amiga emulation has come a far way :thumb:
Download the emu, kickrom and the games you desire, they all out there (you can even choose from originals or cracked versions ;) )
Originally posted by 80sSmurf
*scanning for sarcasm* ;) :D
Where did you even percieve sarcasm in that? :confused:
My Brother-In-Law had an Amiga back in the 80's and I used to love playing Marble Madness whenever we visited with him. I'm gonna check it out. Can't wait to play that again. :)
80sSmurf 4-28-02, 03:32 AM Sorry Shakey, I didn't find your post sarcastic, I was just trying to make a joke :)
If you wanna try Marble Madness now, just go to http://www.winuae.net/ and pick up the game from http://www.aceroms.com (it's under Tosec Roms). Note! You need a kick.rom to play, but that isn't hard to find :D
80sSmurf 4-30-02, 12:08 PM WOOOHOOOOOO :1offwall: I finally got a working .adf of SWOS 94, and I found the right configuration for it on WinUAE....This means I'll log off in a few mins and play all night :D
SWOS is so great, I don't even think a footy manager where you get to actually participate in the games exsits :p
Guess this is only something the xchangers outside the US will enjoy, or did anyone ever play SWOS or Sensible Soccer ????
That Guy Next Door 4-30-02, 12:13 PM Just a note to Smurfey..... yeah, Neo geo graphics are a bit pixellated but with scanline and interpolation on, it's still good looking on my PC ( 1600*1200/75hz ) and the background is often lavishly animated which fewer games system do right, now.So if you check all the animated details, neo geo wins by far ......
TGND " Guy like a nerd....or maybe not !!!! :D "
80sSmurf 4-30-02, 12:28 PM Originally posted by That Guy Next Door
Just a note to Smurfey..... yeah, Neo geo graphics are a bit pixellated but with scanline and interpolation on, it's still good looking on my PC ( 1600*1200/75hz ) and the background is often lavishly animated which fewer games system do right, now.So if you check all the animated details, neo geo wins by far ......
TGND " Guy like a nerd....or maybe not !!!! :D "
I never doubted Neo Geo's superiority, it is a truly amazing console. What's even more impressive is that games are still made for the arcade version of it :eek: (which is basically identical to the console).
Since I have a very old monitor (Running anything over 800x600 is a tremendous strain on these old eyes :p)) I'll take your word for it's looks :D Just remember that a lot of old games look better in hi-res, even tho' they were made for lo-res tv :)
80sSmurf 5-02-02, 10:00 AM MAME .60b is out :D Get it from MAME.DK (http://www.mame.dk/emulators/) :p
Just got back off of vacation and thought you might appreciate this, Smurf. I went over to see one of my friends and he has gotten into emulation in a hard way. He had over 4 gigabytes of ROM's! I can't even imagine how long that took to download on a 56K line or how much time it must have taken to find them all.
80sSmurf 5-22-02, 01:42 AM :bigeek: 4 gigs ..... That's like the whole MAME, Genesis & SNES gamecatalogue put together ..... Good thing I'm getting cable on monday, that should enable me to get some of the bigger roms myself :D
BTW WB Shakey, hope you had fun on your vacation :p
Roemello 5-22-02, 01:52 AM geez....that is a lot :eek: Can't say I won't have about that much when I get a new comp and cable modem access later this year....hopefully :D
80sSmurf 5-24-02, 03:16 PM OK this got me curious, so I took a good look at all my roms and added 'em up .... Turns out I have a total of 1.39 gigs of zipped roms .... they are not all MAME, however they've been downloaded within the last 15 months :p
Yup, that was a surprise, since I only have ISDN (cable is only 3 days away :1offwall: ) and rarely use both lines.
BTW next MAME release should be right around the corner :thumb:
That too is a lot of ROM's. Guess I am gonna have to start getting back into MAME. You'll love cable, Smurf. I dread the day that I will ever have to go back to dial-up. :(
80sSmurf 5-28-02, 11:53 AM OK I'm a little late with this news, but the SEGA System 16 driver in MAME is being completely rewritten .... Read all about it @ http://www.system16.com/ and the next MAME release is getting closer by the minute :D
BTW Shakey, you were right, I absolutely love my brand new 384 kbit connection :p
If I should get the need to download a huge file, I can have it boosted to 2mbit in less than 30 secs (3days for measly 6$ :thumb: )
Cool. Yup. You have to love these speedy connections. They make for fun downloading. ;)
My emualtar is not that good. Also think it messed up our computer.
80sSmurf 5-29-02, 11:28 AM What emulator are ya using Dan ???
Name ? Version ?? Build ??
BTW new MAME site, with reviews of games and other stuff. Visit http://mamemag.mameworld.net/ if you wanna have a look ..... Have towarn ya about the pop-ups tho' (just as most other MAME websites) :)
80sSmurf 6-22-02, 03:40 PM MAME .61 should be released really soon. The WIPs are pouring out, and we're nearing 2 months since the last release .... Should also include some big updates AFAIK :thumb:
80sSmurf 6-26-02, 06:48 PM Excellent this is turning in to my own li'l emu thread :D
While we wait for MAME .61 I am happy to tell you X-Box owners on the xchange that MAME-X (yes you guessed it, MAME for the X-box), is coming along nicely .... Check out http://xbox.mame.net/ :p
Just a quicj heads-up, you need a mod-chip to use it!!
80sSmurf 7-04-02, 06:51 PM MAME .61 was released today :1offwall: .... Get it at http:www.mame.dk or http://www.mame.net/ :thumb:
48 games have ben added, for a complete list go to http://www.mameworld.net/
Have fun :)
Figured you would appreciate this, Smurf. Just installed a new distribution of Linux on my system and one of the options was to install a butt-load of emulators. MAME was one of them, as well as an Amiga emulator and several others (SNES, etc...). Anyway. I just thought it was cool that those are being packaged with Linux now. :)
80sSmurf 7-05-02, 04:27 AM Yeah you're right Shakey ... Always nice to get new regarding emus :thumb:
The Amiga emu is it UAE or Fellow ??? Just curious :p My guess would be a port of the UAE emu, or is this a completely new emu just for Linux ??? Oh and who're the authors ??
Besides the SNES emu what else did ya get .... Probably an ATARI emu and maybe even some of the newer systems ??? Neo-Geo ?? Mupen ?? (N64 Linux emu)
:lol: Yaeh I know .... Questions overkill ;)
The Amiga emu is UAE.
Here are the other emualtors available.
atari800 - Atari800/XL/XE/5200 emulator
basilisk - Emulates an Apple Macintosh Classic or Mac II
ckmame - Checks your MAME ROM sets
darcnes - Multi system video game emulator
ei - Installation utility for various emulators
jpilot - Palm Pilot desktop for Linux
sarien - Interpreter for early Sierra adventures
stella - An Atari 2600VCS Emulator
stonx - ST on X - an Atari emulator
uae - A Commodore Amiga emulator
vice - Commodore 8-bit Emulator (C64/C128/VIC20/PET)
xzx - Sinclair ZX-Spectrum emulator (with ROM)
z1013emu - Z1013 emulator
z81 - Sinclair ZX81 (Timex TS1000) emulator (with ROM)
80sSmurf 7-12-02, 04:03 PM :lol: Not really sure if anyone else reads my updates, but here's another one .... Gens 2.0 is out, and with full SEGA 32x emulation ... be warned this calls for a fairly powerfull computer (900+ MhZ, 256mb ram to get full fps) :)
As usual there're tons of new dats, frontends etc. over at http://www.mameworld.net/
wavemaster 7-12-02, 04:34 PM I have reserved some little extra space on my PC for MAME and some ROMs...now I only need to go through all the instructions. :D
Originally posted by 80sSmurf
:lol: Not really sure if anyone else reads my updates
What? Are you kidding. Dude, you are like the emulator non-denominational deitey here (can I get away with that? :p ) :D I always read your posts, man. Keep 'em coming. :thumb:
80sSmurf 7-12-02, 08:20 PM Yes you can, coz I have no idea what it means :D Sounds positive, so Thanx :thumb:
Wavey; Nice to see another addict in the pipeline ... You can thank me for showing you MAME by sending a big cheque to ... Well you know the address ;) :lol:
Anyhoo, back to business .... This is still in it's early stages, but definitely worth keeping an eye on :eek: Online Arcade Emulation using Java .... HERE (http://cottage.emuunlim.com/) you'll find the MAME port .... Be warned tho' you still need to supply the roms yourself, compatability is still not big (but considering this project is less than 6 months old it's very good), there's still no joypad support & sound is very poor ... Still it's worth a look.
Other Ja online games include Doom, Quake & Hexen ... Go HERE (http://java-emu.emuunlim.com/) for the full low-down :)
wavemaster 7-13-02, 02:36 AM Originally posted by 80sSmurf
Wavey; Nice to see another addict in the pipeline ... You can thank me for showing you MAME by sending a big cheque to ... Well you know the address ;) :lol:
Is it okay to bribe Karina instead with an assorted collection of German chocolate so you can keep on posting fluff stuff? ;)
Expect a longer e-mail about this topic...guess I need some experts help soon... :D
80sSmurf 7-13-02, 06:03 PM Sure chocolates would work :biglick: :D
... and ask away :)
Originally posted by 80sSmurf
Yes you can, coz I have no idea what it means :D Sounds positive, so Thanx :thumb:
It is positive. :) Just afraid if I use the real word, I'll get spanked. And I just don't fancy one right now, thank you.
80sSmurf 7-16-02, 07:05 AM Good news for the Nintendo people .... The newest NES emulator NESten is now getting somewhere. If you loved your NES in the 80s this is a must try .... Admitted it's not as good as RockNESx yet, but it's coming along nicely ...
Info @ the official NESten site (http://tnse.zophar.net/)
Can be very slow even on cable, so here's a faster SITE (http://www.emulator-zone.com/doc.php/nes/nesten.html)
Have fun :)
I read where the new Nintendulator (no longer developing NESten:p) they recommend using windows 2000 or windows XP. They say it can be run under windows 98. However, if I read correctly, under windows 98 it won't be able to remember the roms folder....:mad:
I was debating whether to try it as my system is windows 98 SE. Has anyone tried it under this system and encountered any problems, if any?
80sSmurf 7-16-02, 05:48 PM Guess NESten isn't the newest kid on the block anymore ... BTW it's still being developed despite what the official site says .... It's now being looked after by a new team of programmers ;)
Haven't tried Nintendolator, since I'm not big into Nintendo emulation .... I'll pick my old fave MAME anytime :thumb:
80sSmurf 7-19-02, 05:07 AM New Namco Namco emulator gas surfaced. It's not a fake, and can play Ridge racer and Rage Racer. I'll fiddle with it tonight and give ya the lowdown afterwards (links, news etc.).
This is very exciting, since that means Tekken, Daytona etc. will probably soon be playable at home in arcade perfect condition ... Tho' I think this will be pretty heavy on the computer ... Like I said, I'll get back with the lowdoan later today :D
80sSmurf 7-19-02, 04:18 PM The lowdown as promised .... A hands on short review :)
The new and working Namco System 22 emulator is named VIVA NONNO and it is stunning :eek:
So far it runs Ridge Racer 2 (and RR2 Jap) & Rave racer, and does a good job at that :D
1st release VIVA NONNO v22.0.1 was released on 7/19 - 2002 (yup that's today). Official site http://www.geocities.com/viva_nonno (site is unavailable at the moment due to user exceeding allowed bandwith - not sure if Roem will allow a DL link to this emu ??) *EDIT* OK sites up
Goto http://www.system16.com/namco/hrdw_system22.html for the Namco System 22 hardware specs ;)
(BTW even if http://www.system16.com claims that no Namco systems are emulated that's not true, there's also a discontinued Namco System 11 emulator out, but it only runs a few intro screens of various games :( )
Before you run out and DL this emu, you should know that it is heavy on the computer (as stated earlier) ... Here are the official system requirements:
CPU - 1GHz (minimum) or over 1.5GHz (recommended)
VGA - DirectX7 support are required. GeForce class VGA is recommended.
Video Memory - 32MB (recommended) - 256MB or more memory required for no-reducted texture.
Sound - DirectSound support required.
I'll just add to this .... I was able to play RR2 at 25-30 fps (with sound disabled) on my 750MhZ AMD, 256mb Ram, TNT2 32mb video :) (guess I just got another big reason for upgrading heavily)
BTW joystick is still unsupported.
Finally some screenshots of VIVA NONNO runnin' RR2 (no I didn't take these myself, these are from the official site, I just rezised 'em)
80sSmurf 7-19-02, 04:20 PM Picture 2 of 3 :D
80sSmurf 7-19-02, 04:23 PM And the final pic (there're a few more pics on the official Viva Nonno site ;) ). If ya have any questions regarding this emu, feel free to ask in here or PM me :)
80sSmurf 7-24-02, 02:49 PM Viva Nonno got a new working website, and even set up a forum for the emu :)
http://vivanonno.vg-network.com/
Hey! That looks slick. What other kind of games are available for that emu? Is it just the two they listed, or are there bunches of others?
80sSmurf 7-25-02, 01:31 AM Yup, it's a good emu, no doubt about that. So far it's only Ridge & Rave Racer that are playable and available. There are a bunch of System 22 dumps floating around on the net, most are unemulated. MAME has a few emulated tho' (Strikers 1945 Plus & Strikers 1945 ll) but with no sound. That also goes for Prop Cycle, which is WIP (it'll psobably be included in the next release of MAME). Depending on the progress of VN we might see RR included into MAME during this fall. The MAMEdev team alreday has some System 22 drivers, and now we know it's possible to play heavier titles as well .... Good thing I'm getting a new computer next winter/spring :)
Originally posted by 80sSmurf
MAME .61 was released today :1offwall: .... Get it at http:www.mame.dk or http://www.mame.net/ :thumb:
48 games have ben added, for a complete list go to http://www.mameworld.net/
Have fun :)
I'm assuming I have to delete MAME win32 v.36 (have moved all of the roms to another roms folder) before I DL (and unzip) MAME win32v.61. I assume it also will play games from MAME59 with no problems:p
BTW how's the WinAUE coming along?:)
80sSmurf 7-28-02, 07:09 AM Yup, delete MAME32 v.36b. Currently MAME32 only supports one config at a time .... And you simply move all your roms into the MAME32 v.61 roms folder. A few might not work, since driver changes are made all the time. Sometimes it's a metter of deleting a few files from the rom, other times you need to DL a roms fix pack, that contains a few files you're missing to make a specific rom work. Unfortunatle some roms will have completely new dumps which means you'll have to DL the rom once again :)
WinUAE is coming along nicely, it's got very good compatibility and also runs WB :thumb: Issues with this emu are still speed (the author chose to have good compatability over speed for starters) and a few gfx bugs in 800x600+ resolutions :)
BTW new WIP update at http://www.mame.net/wip/
I saw something in EmuUnlim about CirMamePro. It talks about finding missing roms. Does it also find missing files for roms, contain patches for roms, etc.?
80sSmurf 7-29-02, 07:56 PM It doesn't contain any patches, but it'll check all your roms for ya ... It looks for missing files, wrong crc's etc. just make sure you have tha latest .dat file before using it :)
I also assume CirMamePro will fix (and retrieve) the files for ya once they're found.
What is crc? Is CirMamePro a good companion to have with MAME?
I assume the latest .dat file (for mame win32 v.61) can be found at the WIP update link.
80sSmurf 7-30-02, 04:47 AM ClrMamePro is an indispensable tool when using MAME ... You could also use RomCenter :)
ClrMamePro will ot download your needed files for ya, you have to hunt 'em down yourself, but it will help ya update your roms, once you have the missing files.
A CRC is a piece of code called a checksum that give information about a rom.
For the latest version of ClrMamePro and .dat file go to http://www.clrmame.com/ :)
(A new version was released yesterday)
Went to Kaillera's website. DL MAME32 v.61 +Kaillera Client V.9 When I go to Unzip it, it will install it to my computer. However it says MAME32k is required. What is MAME32k? Will this version of MAME have all of the same features as MAME32v.61b (aside from being able to use Kaillera)?
Will my computer be able to support a lot of the more popular games (MVC or MVSF) with this emu (or the emu itself)? My system has a pentium 3 processor. Not sure on video memory (screen display is 800x600 and I run on 16-bit color). I have 128K of RAM.
80sSmurf 7-31-02, 07:26 AM Hmmm not sure since I don't really use Kaillra, but AFAIK it's just MAME with netplay capabilities (you still need Kaillera tho). Maybe you can find some usefull info at http://kaillera.com/forums/ :)
1st I'm sure you have 128mb ram and not 128k, there's a huge difference ;)
2nd: to see some of your system specs just click the START button, select RUN... and type in; dxdiag (you can only do this if ya have DirectX installed, which you most likely have if ya ever had any regular games on your system ;) )
3rd with your system specs, you should be able to run all games supported in MAME, altho many of the newer games (ie. Strikers 1945 Plus will have frameskips) :)
Ran dxdiag. I think if I read right I have 32MB video (sound right?) Still good for some newer games (e.g. MVC, or XMVSF)?
What version of ClrMamepro should I download, .exe or .zip?
DL Mame32/ w Kaillera. Mame32K is just Mame with Kaillera Client implemented into it. Ever heard of Mamelon (Japan)?
Confused on game support: when I transfer one of my roms to Mame32K, it says the game is not supported. It then gives a "fuzzy list" of games.
Here's the part that doesn't make sense. I go into Kaillera server network. When you connect to a server (out of as many as 100, maybe more), it gives a list of games that are to be played, plus the emu that is running it (e.g. Mame32k). MVC or XMVSF (can't remember which, maybe both) is displayed and shows it being run by MAME32K yet this game is NOT mentioned in this "fuzzy list" of supported games. How is this possible?:confused: Unless somehow I'm getting the "fuzzy list" of games (non-network games) mixed up with games used in Kaillera (e.g. MVC). Still don't see how Mame32k won't support my roms. The screen looks the same as mame32v.61b (pretty much).
Good idea/bad idea to DL mame32v.61b in conjunction w/Mame32k? I'm thinking :tsk:
When I started up a game (even though it's not in my rom folder for mame32) it lists the binary files needed for the game. I checked and all of the binary files in the game matched that against the ones needed to start the emulation.
EDIT: Found out on the Kaillera forums from someone AFATK all games should be compatible w/MAME32Kv.61.
However, still cannot get my roms supported by MAME32K
80sSmurf 8-02-02, 06:47 PM It's after midnight right now, and I have to get up for my sisters wedding tomorrow ... I'l gett back to ya on sunday David :)
80sSmurf 8-05-02, 12:34 PM OK all done with weddings and all :D
32mb vid card sounds about right :)
.exe or .zip .... doesn't really matter since they contain all the same files, the difference is that the .exe will put everything where you want it, so you don't have to move folders around.
When putting new games in the MAME32 romsfolder, always hit refresh, and once our done with that, at least once run "audit all games"
And yes installing both mame32v.61b & Mame32k is a bad idea, you'll get error messages and crashes as long as the NYC yellow pages ;)
Why your roms won't work in MAME32k I have no idea .... either there's a bug in that package or your roms got corrupted (yes that can happen, that what we have ClrMamePro for ;) )
Can ya tell me the exact error message or even better post a few screen shots of the "fuzzy" games ?? :)
Unfortunately, cannot copy-and-paste a screen of the error message.
Here's what I got when I went to load "1941" (click and drag from my roms folder to the mame32K icon):
game "C:\MYDOCU~1\ROMS\1941.ZIP not supported
the name fuzzy matches the following supported games:
cclimberj Crazy Climber (Japan)
cclimber Crazy Climber (US)
calipso Calipso
cavelon Cavelon
ckongs Crazy Kongs (Scramble Hardware)
checkmaj Checkman (Japan)
checkman Checkman
crush3 Crush Roller (Kural-bootleg?)
crush2 Crush Roller (Kural Esco-bootley?)
crush Crush Roller (Kural Samno)
Just to verify: every time I load a game from the roms folder into MAME32k I should hit the refresh button? Then after all is done, hit "audit all games"?
80sSmurf 8-05-02, 05:51 PM Aaaah I think what the problem is :)
You drag your rom (like 1941) to the MAME32k icon right ??? Don't do that .... Simply open the directory where M32k is, find the roms folder that's for M32k and load the roms in there, then double-click the M32k icon and your good to go.
BTW to get a screen shot, just hit the key that syas; Prt Scr (print screen), open any graphics program (PhotoShop, PaintShop Pro even M$ Paint) right click and choose paste as new layer .... There your screenshot ;)
Hi Nico,
EDIT:Yup, MAME32k, Second Edition:D
I put mame32v.61b in the Recycle Bin before DL mame32k). I assume once items are in the recycle bin, they are gone forever (except for emptying the bin).
Just found out from someone on the Kaillera forum not to unzip my romsets. However, these are roms I've used in MAME59 and MAME32v.36.
It sounds like the fact my roms are older is the possible culprit to MAME32k not supporting them.
Just DL Clrmamepro v 2.7 (.exe) I assume this is Clrmame with the seperate .exe file included, as there was also a seperate .exe file you could download at the site. I'll check it out more later:)
Checked out Clrmamepro...:goofy:
Confused.... what's the difference between clrmamepro.exe and clrmame.pro.exe. manifest?
I've read the FAQ's, and how-to's, but still don't know what to do with the roms (it mentions about specifying pathnames, etc.); driving me :goofy:
What's the first thing I do w/clrmamepro? (I have not yet double-clicked on clrmamepro.exe as I don't know what it will do)
BTW how come I cannot create an automatic shortcut (send)to desktop from the c:\program files\clrmamepro? Or Mame32k (also in program files)? I think it will let me "create a shortcut"(when I go to New-->Shortcut under Files), but I have to type in something for it to work.
Yup, I fiddled and baked and fiddled and baked (well....not baked:D, but have been working on figuring out these emus;) ) Both emulators support Kaillera.
Here's how to use PCAEWIN,(plays Atari 2600 games) which can be found here:
http://pcae.vg-network.com/index.html
This system is somewhat awkward to handle at first, but you'll catch on pretty quick:)
1)DL PCAEWIN v.2.6 direct x and documentation (there's also a source code, hence why I mention this version).
2)DL whatever roms you want for it.
3)After DL the rom(s) open the emulator and click on Preferences. You will see a folder marked C:\emu 2600\roms. Click on the folder icon beside it. This will allow you to browse for whatever rom you want to play. Click on the desired rom and click OK.
4)Here's awkward part#1. After clicking the game, you will not be able to click on the emu itself. Instead, click on the blue window (will be the Preferences menu window) to open that back up. Awkward part#2: Sometimes you can click on "x" and your settings will be confirmed. NOT IN THIS CASE! Instead, you need to click OK to confirm your settings. The same procedure goes for the rest of the folders in the Preferences section.
5)After this go to File-->Open. Double click on the game to start it. Click on the green button to start emulation (you should get a picture--Don't start the game just yet;) ). The menu called Profile Settings should tell what controller your game requires. You can adjust this in the Controller menu.
6) There is an option called Interface. Go to enable to enable the controller (assuming you have one). Then go to Configure and click on the Controller tab. Awkward part#3: When it comes to configuring the left-right, and up-down movements, one would think you could change that just by moving the pad in the desired direction. NOT SO! Here's the deal: drag the mouse all the way to the right. you'll come up on analog axis (1 and 2). Notice the red dot on both of them. Watch them closely. Depending on the up-down or left-right movement at the moment, the dot will move left and right, as you move the joystick (up-down, left-right, doesn't matter) confirming the movement of the "joystick" or "paddle" in coordination with your joypad. Seems counterproductive to have a dot move left-right for an up-down movement confirmation... I know...a bit long-winded:goofy:, but necessary to clear-up any confusion. Afterwards click OK (do not close out by clicking "x"!) to confirm the settings. You might have to click and drag the small blue window to find the OK button in the lower right-hand corner.
The button settings should be easy enough. A flash of a red dot will confirm the setting for that movement.
7) Click on the green button, hit reset (after selecting a game setting), and enjoy:D Press the red button to stop emulation.
8) BTW this emulator has a built-in feature that's pretty nifty: If there is a game that cannot be played or somehow you get a bad dump, the emulator will NOT play it; you'll just get a black screen. So if in doubt, check your rom.
NOTE: I'm still figuring out the rest of the ins and outs of this emu, but this should keep our emu-holics happy for now;) Feel free to post here in this forum or PM me for any questions or comments, discoveries, etc. I'll answer the questions as best I can.
BTW I recommend checking out this page: www.atariage.com It has loads of info, roms, forums, etc. Just about any aspect of Atari you want to know you'll probably find here. A great site for Atari fans.
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Using JNES (plays NES games):
This should be easier to use than PCAEWIN:p
I recommend going to www.jabosoft.com\jnes to DL the latest version. After clicking the link, go to Messageboard. Scroll down to Current 5.0 downloads. Click on that. Scroll down to v5.0 Beta 2 (the latest version) Click on that.
After saving it to wherever. You'll need to use Winzip or something else to extract it. The JNES.exe application will be available. However, I believe you'll need to load a file called "zlib.dll" to get JNES to work. Just click and drag the file to the JNES icon. Afterwards you should be able to open JNES.
Playing a game is easy here. Just go to open, browse whatever folder your roms are in, select the desired rom, and click OK. Go to Options-->Input to configure your controller. Enjoy:D
When playing with these two emulators, I usually just play with the tiny screen that is given. I'm thinking whenever you try to play full-screen on any console emulator you're bound to get errors, crashes, etc. Does this sound right?
80sSmurf 8-13-02, 06:21 PM Nope :D
These things are made to work in full-screen, and often they make a better job (eg. less frame skipping, sound stuttering etc.) in full screen than in windowed mode .... I'm not sure why, but I'm guessing this has to do with the resolution and bpp of the original consoles. Maybe also that Windows uses less resources in full-screen than in windowed mode (could Aaron or Shakey please verify or disregard (?) this : ) .... If you happen to stumble upon an emu that seem buggy or crashes in full screen, chances are it's an (yet) unfixed bug, or a bad install. In either case check the docs that come with the emu.
I always run my roms in full-screen, and I'm yet to experience any problems (aside from newer emus that are very cpu demanding) :)
80sSmurf 8-14-02, 03:06 PM Just re-read most of this thread ('twas good reading I tell ya), but I noticed that the last few pages is basically me and David ranting on and on and on, so here we go again (just trying to revive one of my fave threads here :D )
What (if any) emus do you know, use, enjoy ????
What are your thoughts on emulators ????
BTW, if ya need any rom links I have tons for almost every system, just send me a PM and I'll send you the links you need .... If you're one of those people who enjoy rom-hunting as much as you enjoy playing 'em here are a few pointers;
Use more than one language when you search for roms, even if you don't speak anything but english, chances are you'll be able to navigate to the roms of any rom-site you find. Here are a list of roms/emu related words in foreign languages ....
rom romy romok jatekok romz romas
emulator emulatory emulacja emunacja emulatorach e
mulador emulateur nacheiferer emulatore
computer komputery
console konsol
video game jeu visuel videospiel video gioco jobo video juego video
Also try searching with "directory of" or "dir of" name of game .... Keep the " but type the name of the game out side the " " ... This is similar to how DL-managers search for files :D
OK back to the Qs in BOLD
Just a little tidbit on the PCAEWIN (atari 2600 emu): There are two formats of cartridges you can play on this emulator, NTSC and PAL. These are the formats the cartridges were written in.
NTSC is the North American version, PAL the European version. The Atariage link I believe offers both versions for some cartridges.
From what I've read, the PAL format consoles are able to play the NTSC cartridges just fine. However, the NTSC consoles play the PAL versions quite poorly, as the screen can roll and the colors are affected.
This shouldn't affect the emu play. Just a little tidbit for the Atari console connoisseurs:D
A tidbit for the JNES fans: Some of roms you download will be saved as a set of numbers when you save it to disk. However, you can rename this set of numbers and it will not affect the rom as far as recognition by the emu, etc.:)
80sSmurf 8-17-02, 06:27 PM More MAME WIP @ http://www.mame.net/status.html ... There's now sound in Strikers 1945 :thumb:
Messed some more with PCAEWIN. There's an option where you can view the instruction manual to the game. Unfortunately so far not going to happen.:o Definitely would be nice to know how to play a game:D Nothing like winging it with some game you've never played before:p
80sSmurf 8-29-02, 04:11 PM Didn't really plan to post this, but the MAME WIP is gettin' better and better by the day. Don't believe me ?? take a look at http://www.mame.net/status.html and while you're there check out the rest of august :eek: :thumb: :D
Might be a little late on this, but it looks like Winuae v8.22 (beta 2) will be ready for release for public testing in a few days. There are some bugs yet to be worked out. It was originally dated 9/9, but said to wait a few days. Some of the features look pretty good:)
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Just a little useless Atari tidbit: The game Tax Avoiders for the 2600 was created by a person who worked for the IRS:p
80sSmurf 9-24-02, 05:06 AM Seems like the next release of MAME will be delayed for at least a couple of weeks. From http://www.retrogames.com/ Nicola Salmoria, has been very busy and has literally hundreds of emails and submissions to sort through before a new release can be done.
According to http://www.mameworld.net/ that means the next version of MAME will be awesome (like it isn't already) :)
I just use Mame 32, Snes X9 and Nesticles.......
love it mane...
Holla....
80sSmurf 10-07-02, 06:11 PM While we all hold our breath for the next MAME, why not mess around with the newest addition to the emu-scene Project Tempest ... A new Atari Jaguar is born, and this one plays commercial games :thumb:
It still lacks sound, and can be somewhat of a system resource hog, but who cares, finally someone managed to bring Jaguar emulation to the next level .... There's still a long way to go before the Jag will be perfectly emulated (5 cpus :eek:, 4 of which are custom and have never been emulated before AFAIK)
Check it out @ http://pt.emuunlim.com/
80sSmurf 10-11-02, 11:13 AM A little late with this, but Project Tempest has been updated twice, and is now at v0.12, get it HERE (http://pt.emuunlim.com/) ... BTW the PT Forum (http://www.emuunlim.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=35) is located ... erh ... <--- there
MAME WIP has been updated too, methinks the next release will be [StartsSingin']HOT HOT HOT....[/StopsSingin'] :D
Finally Gens (the kick-@ss MegaDrive/Genesis/SegaCD/Sega32x has been updated to v2.11 ... take a look at the Official Gens site (http://gens.consolemul.com/) :)
80sSmurf 10-12-02, 01:18 PM Not an emu update, but a cool li'l flash-flik for the dedicated MAME-fan .... Take a look at MAME ROCK (http://powerstrike.net/Tehkan/mamerock.swf) :thumb:
"Here is MAME .... Rock you like a hurricane !!!" :D
RetroMan 10-21-02, 10:27 AM 80sSmurf!!!!!!!!!! that is the coolest thing I have seen in a long time! what an absolute flashback! I love the Eagle Empire sequence and that other bit where that Gallaxion alien comes down and gets Pac Mac in the tractor beam and...and...and....
Man I want my computer to boot up with that thing every time I turn it on! IT ROCKS ME LIKE A HURRICANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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