Okay. I'll be quick. This is BETTER than Napster. I'm serious. There really is a better file sharing utility. And, from what I hear, it can never be shut down.

Go now and downlaod the program.

www.kazaa.com (http://www.kazaa.com/)

If you like downloading music, movies, videos, programs, etcetera - this is the application for you.

You heard it here first! (Well, it would be kinda cool if you did...)

That sounds like a great site <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

This is odd, I have seen the name Kazza before. I opened my Morephus shared folder and there are about 8 Kazza downloads??? I wonder if Kazza is somehow connected with Morephus?


I went and double clicked the icon that reads Kazzadownloading and it said someone else is using it. That must mean other people sharing my music <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> Cool! <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

Another good Napster like program is Audiogalaxy:

www.audiogalaxy.com (http://www.audiogalaxy.com)

It works like Kazaa, but I have had more luck finding obscure 80's songs here. You can easily have both of them running.

-Flix <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

Ahh, you´re all a bunch of suckers...technically spoken <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0">

There are dozens of programs, all basing on the P2P-principle (Peer To Peer). Since there are no central servers, the chances of getting shut down is virtually nil.

Here are some programs which are recommended to me (I still prefer Audiogalaxy for the sheer variety of rare stuff) :

WinMX
Bear Share Defender ( www.bearshare.com (http://www.bearshare.com/) )

If you want to try it out with Defender, dl also the normal version of BS since it´s not running overall stable. The advantage of Defender is that you get more accesses and faster dl´s.

In all cases, your PC should be protected by a Firewall to prevent port scanning (I recommend Zone Alarm, Zone Labs (http://www.zonelabs.com/) ) and unwanted access on your computer.

I use Morpheus and so far it works pretty good for me. <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

I tried Bearshare, but the fluckin' thing is to damn slow <img src="mad.gif" border="0">

I haven't tried audiogalaxy yet, but maybe in the future I will. <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

I use Zone Alarm on my comp too. <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> You need a firewall especially with a always on connection. <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

I use Audio Galaxy. I've been happy with it for the most part.

As for the firewall. Definitely "Zone Alarm". There is a great web page if you are curious as to the extent of protection your firewall is giving you. It is at this Web Site... (https://grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2) It will give you a full run down on what ports are detected and any measures you can take if it detects a weakness.

The reason I like Kazaa as opposed to anything else is the interface. It's got the same interface as Napster and has lots of songs and other files. As people begin to migrate, there will be more of a selection. Imagine that? The same selection as Napster with the same interface... What more could you ask for?

Just one odd thing. I found it running on my PC when I woke up this morning. I'll have to look into that. Maybe I left it running in the background... Maybe I didn't! I will see...

Sal,
I had the same "problem" with Kazaa. It seems like it autoruns itself somehow. I have no clue to whether you can change the setting or not.

-Flix <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

I'm gueesing Kazaa is running 'coz people are downloading files from ur CPU. U can probably do something about this in settings...

I use LimeWire myself. It is also a gnutella program, that allows users to share files of all sorts. Limewire has a little advantage if ur use a modem (be it 56k or ISDN), u can disconnect while downloading, meaning that all bandwith will be used on the download in progress...Nice little feature <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

I also like the interface on LimeWire, it's extremely easy to use, and let's u set up everything to ur likings.

None of the programs mentioned in this topic is likely to get shut down, as they are all Gnutella programs. If u want to know more, just go to the site below. They'll explain everything in a way that everybody understands <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0">

www.limewire.com (http://www.limewire.com)

Oh one last thing...Wach out for BearShare, it comes with a variant of Spyware...If u don't believe me, then try this site

www.spychecker.com (http://www.spychecker.com)

yeah.. I saw a big article about BearShare in PC magazine about 5 or so months ago, it got bad reviews, mentioning their speed problems and they danced around the topic of "Spyware", so users beware.

Originally posted by 80sSmurf:
<STRONG>

None of the programs mentioned in this topic is likely to get shut down, as they are all Gnutella programs...

Oh one last thing...Watch out for BearShare, it comes with a variant of Spyware...

</STRONG>

A word on Audiogalaxy (again...) :

AG might be one future target for being shut down, as they have servers to route queries. They also feature artists which MP3s are available for free (some of them are actually well known), but if this will stop a clever/stupid lawyer for sueing them, is at least questionable.

AG comes also with spyware, in this case it´s called Webhancer. Don´t try to remove it from AG Satellite, otherwise it won´t run properly at all.
You can neutralize Webhancer if you are using Zone Alarm - go for the respective settings and prohibit the spyware from connection. Worked fine so far, at least I wasn´t molested with unwanted ads yet.

Here is another good file sharing program. It's the only one I use now. I can always find what I want on there.

www.winmx.com (http://www.winmx.com)

I'm using Morpheus right now, but I'm gonna have to try out some of these, too. Thanks!

Kazaa hasn't "automatically" opened again since that one time. I think I must have had it running in the background accidentally. Otherwise, I agree that Audio Galaxy wont be around forever. The first thing that gave me this idea was seeing Metallica songs listed as, "Sorry, copyright"... I never want to see anything like that. Once I saw that, AudioGalaxy went into my recycle bin...

I'm sorry for even recommending AudioGalaxy in the first place. I haven't been able to connect to a server since I recommended it. Ironic indeed. Besides, Wave and Sal's comments only make AG even more pointless.

Sorry 'bout that, people!

Oh, don't feel bad, Flix! I recommended them too!

Originally posted by Flixfan:
<STRONG>I'm sorry for even recommending AudioGalaxy in the first place. I haven't been able to connect to a server since I recommended it. Ironic indeed. Besides, Wave and Sal's comments only make AG even more pointless.

Sorry 'bout that, people!</STRONG>

I have to admit that it´s sometimes impossible to connect to AG. Even with DSL, you have no chance. AG is at least that fair to warn visitors about high traffic and suggest to log in later. The Satellite is also trying to repeat logins after a while. Plus, if the selected title isn´t available at the moment, the Satellite is automatically downloading it as soon as it´s available again, and it will resume incomplete dl´s.
And...AG didn´t cheated on their folks as Napster did...
If you are connected to the web with a 56k modem, you might experience such problems, as the bandwidth is just too small to handle dl/ul/ and surfing at the same time properly. I suggest removing the recently downloaded files to another folder to prevent too many uploads and requests which are also slowing down your internet speed. I know that this crosses the idea of sharing, but unless you won´t have faster access, this is the only way to keep a bit of bandwidth for you... <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

I don´t think that my comments about AG are completely pointless. Since Napster´s virtually dead, AG is offering the widest selection on titles as far as I know.
Some (current) titles are blocked from downloading, but with the usual tricks (e.g. misspelling) you should be able to find the desired tracks. If you´re objective against downloading copyrighted tracks, just don´t do it...

WinMX is okay, but as far as I´ve tested it, dl´s never reached the same speeds as AG. This is generally no problem of the programs but of the subject in general - you´ll never know from which location the data were routed to you, while AG tries to set up a more or less direct route from you to the location of data.

Nuff said...I´m not touchy or wanted to start some arguing, but I just wanted to state why I think that AG is cool, even when you search for rare stuff from the 80s... <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

Wave, I think you misunderstood. I didn't think your comment was pointless. Actually the opposite. I thought you made a good point with the "next to be shut down/spyware" comment.

I like AG as well. It has helped me find long lost 80's songs not available on CD, but recent problems and comments on this board makes me think twice before recommending AG to others.

Hard to argue when we all agree. <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

Oh...see, never try to argue with someone in a foreign language... <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0">

I misunderstood the "pointless" comment...sorry. In the case of spyware...that´s a good point NOT to recommend programs installing them, especially when you won´t get a single notice during the installation. At least, I´ll keep an eye on things like that now.

Here´s another tip...search the web for AdAware. This little proggie detects any spyware and removes it from your harddrive.

Like I said...never wanted to pump it up to some kind of arguing...Peace, okay? <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0">

yeah, i got that about a month or so ago..it's awesome! you can even get a plug-in for winamp where you just pick a song and can listen to it...
KaZaA RULES!!!!!!!
-Sarah &gt;^._.^&lt;

I downloaded Kazaa a few days ago and when I ran it, it opened Morpheus just like Music City does. Is there a reason to have both? Also, I, too, experienced log-on probs with AG, & I have a cable modem, which doesn't seem to help.

Once again I have to recommend LimeWire. It's stabil, fast & and doesn't f*ck up your CPU <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

www.limewire.com (http://www.limewire.com)

Originally posted by 80sSmurf:
[QB]Once again I have to recommend LimeWire. It's stabil, fast & and doesn't f*ck up your CPU <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> QB]
Ok, smurf, I dl'ed LimeWire today on your expert advice. <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> I played with it a bit, the file dl's seem a bit sluggish, but the search is quite easy & the selection is very good. Thanx for the tip, I'll be using LW alot, I'm sure!

For a faster DL, simply click "disconnect" once ur DL's begun...U will disconnect from the gnutella network, use all that precious bandwith on ur DLs only. This li'l trick decreases ur DL-time significantly <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> ...when it's completed, simply click "connect" and presto u can go back to searching.

Good idea! Why didn't I think of that! http://www.plauder-smilies.de/kopfpatsch.gif
Once again, Smurf, thank you for your sage advice! http://www.plauder-smilies.de/happy/xyxthumbs.gif

Imesh and Aimster are a couple more.

I don't have any download speed problems with bearshare. I just downloaded 6 things at once with a bandwidth of 1.7 meg/sec. Maybe I'm just lucky, but I find the best speeds/most bandwidth through bearshare.

I have been using Audiogalaxy and haven't been having any problems. I kind of like it better than what Napster used to be.

I use Morpheus....seems to work well for me! <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

Originally posted by morningmyst:
<STRONG>I use Morpheus....seems to work well for me! <img src="smile.gif" border="0"></STRONG>
Myst! I love Morpheus! But i think that Kazaa = Morpheus. I DL'ed Morpheus from MusicCity.com, and when i run Kazaa, it just opens my Morpheus.
I also like the Limewire that Smurf recommended. Although it is a little harder to understand at first, it can do multiple searches at once & the selection is great. But Morpheus is still my fave. <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0"> (so far)

The only problem I have with Morephus is when someone uploads from me or if I am downloading, my pages load very slow. It can take up to 2min. to load a page here. <img src="frown.gif" border="0"> Other than that, its great to be able to see videos and listen to some rare songs. <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

limewire is also quite good but ,yes Galaxy is tops

Has anyone tried WinMX ???? "Try It You'll Like It "

I like Winmx but sometimes it take forever to log on and we have cable.

I loved AG the day I downloaded it. I got a lot of old hard to get songs and it was fast. My problem was then next time I logged in It said my satelitte wasn't turned on and it didn't exactly give instructions on how to turn it on. So I deleted it, then I found the Webhancer and had to get rid of that too.

Morpheus is great for getting movies. I really like that one :)

I use AG all the time, and if you're having a problem with the satellite open it up first. It should be on your desktop, then go to the site.
Today I downloaded:
"Down in the Park" - Gary Numan
"I Say Nothing" - Voice of the Beehive
"Love Is a Slug" - Fuzzbox
"Making Plans for Nigel" - XTC

I beleive it to because I must see about 1,000 answers for like every 2 topics that you write. :)

Using Morpheus for now.. until it craps at least. But I'll have to commit those others to memory.. in case I can't find what I'm looking for at Morpheus. But Morpheus is really simple to use.. so I'll stick with it for the time being.

AudioGalaxy sued by music industry:

http://www.nando.net/technology/story/413317p-3291837c.html

Originally posted by Cartoon_Chris
AudioGalaxy sued by music industry:

http://www.nando.net/technology/story/413317p-3291837c.html

I am not surprised. Most of their songs are illegal songs. It was just a matter of time before this happened.

Originally posted by Pippi


I am not surprised. Most of their songs are illegal songs. It was just a matter of time before this happened.

Illegal songs? Whoa, sounds dangerous... :D

Yes, I have read the article about the lawsuit against AG...and I won't do any bets on who is winning it. :(

I have recently discovered eDonkey. Another P2P program, but with a major difference: the downloads were taken from different servers which reduces the download time in most cases.
eDonkey is fairly new compared to other P2P's like WinMX, so the variety of downloadable files is a bit limited, and configuring this program is not for beginners, but there are a lot of sites with instructions available.
Overall, eDonkey could be the future of filesharing - let's wait and see.

Originally posted by wavemaster
Illegal songs? Whoa, sounds dangerous... :D

:lol: :laugh: I meant illegal copies of songs.

I have used Audiogalaxy some, but it is too slow for me. I gave up on MP3 after Napster closed.

I can't stand AG... they're mean to people with dail up:( But Kazaa:D, who my friend tuned me into when I was bitchin' and moaning about P2P and similar sites is very, very cool... less of a waiting period when I DL stuff.

Originally posted by Tydestra
I can't stand AG... they're mean to people with dail up:(

Awww:( it seems to work Splendid for people with DSL :p:p hehehe, sorry Sweetie :love:

On the other hand, I've had nothing but problems with Kazaa and Wnmx, I hate both of those programs :mad: :devil: I also use Aimster and Crapster( yes there is a DL engine called Crapster) which are both decent programs as well :)

:rant: Damn you DSL people... damn you all:p

WinMX works fine for me and gets me all the mp3s I want, so it's good enough for me. :)

Currently, I use Kazaa. But, eDonkey sounds interesting. I'd like to hear more about it...

Here's my take on Kazaa, Morpheus, WinMX, Napster, Audiogalaxy, DirectConnect, eDonkey, and god knows what else.

Kazaa: So far, it's the best file sharing utility I have found. You won't find every single thing you want here, but overall, more than 90% can be found. Almost every song I looked for was available, and if its not, just try later. Most movies or games can be found, you just need to keep trying. If you don't find it on your first couple of tries, just wait longer. Also, it will automatically resume files. You can download only a small fraction of the file, and if the user disconnects, it will keep looking for another user with the same file. If you log off and don't come back for weeks, that fraction will still be there and pick up again. The only problem is it searches by filename. If you are downloading a movie, say Star Wars 2, and someone else has the EXACT same movie, same size, but spells it different, Kazaa won't pick it up. Since sharman networks bought them, they always have at least 1 million users online at any given time.

Morpheus: I used it before the new layout. It was the same as Kazaa, just no spyware. I had way too many problems trying to connect with it, so I finally gave up. I'm not sure if it still uses the kazaa engine or not.

WinMX: It's just alright for downloading SMALL files, but good luck getting anything bigger than an mp3. EVERYTHING is in a queue and most users have HUGE queues (as in over 20 other people waiting), and before you can even get your chance, that user logs off. WinMX doesn't automatically look for other sources, you have to explicitly tell it. The old version didn't resume automatically, maybe the new version does. If ALL you want are mp3s, its ok for that, but not much else. I RARELY use it.

Napster: Out of commission for now.

Audiogalaxy: Excellent resource to find music. Every bit as good, if not better than Kazaa. It's only for music though. Most songs are banned on there, you so have to search by song name, not artist or you won't find it for download.

DirectConnect: Not real impressed with it. You can sometimes find things here you can't find elsewhere (my friend found Return To Castle Wolfenstein on here before it was on Kazaa), but the most users I have ever seen online were about 800. On top of that, if you don't share so many gigs, most servers won't let you on. Then comes the task of connecting to another user and downloading what they have. If the user logs off, it won't automatically resume from anybody else.

eDonkey: I used it for a few months. I hate it. The last version I used slowed my Pentium 800 to a 286 (practically). The most users I ever saw online were about 2500, usually less. Downloads are very slow and only super popular files are there, like Microsoft and Photoshop type files. Perhaps the new version is better, but I tried it again a few months ago and all I saw different was the interface. It was still very slow.

I have tried a few others here and there, but kazaa is the only one I stick with.

I'm still using WinMX (has reached v3.1) for mp3's, one of these days, I think I'll give GNUCLEUS (http://www.gnucleus.net/) a try :p

If you have questions, doubts etc. regarding P2P clients, you should check out http://www.gnutellaforums.com/ :thumb:

Originally posted by Sal Collaziano
Currently, I use Kazaa. But, eDonkey sounds interesting. I'd like to hear more about it...

I guess that the best way to get more informations about eDonkey is simply typing this term in any search engine and search for the respective FAQ's (I have only looked for German FAQ's so far :D).

So far, eDonkey had the best download rates of all P2P's I've tried (WinMX, BearShare, Morpheus). Of course, you can't expect any wonders - it's in the nature of those programs, you will never get similar DL rates compared to a direct FTP-DL.

One last word of advice: modem users should read the instructions very carefully...if you let the Donkey run wild, it will use the whole bandwidth of your connection at once, preventing any other access to the internet.

Except that edonkey doesn't have anywhere near the amount of users that kazaa has. I used edonkey for the last time a few months ago and less than 2000 people were online.

I used kazaa last night and the least amount of users online was around 1.2 million.

Not sure why, but apparently Kazaa, eDonkey, WinMX and a few others I forgot, isn't considered gnutella clients .... I'm still searching thru' the gnutella forums (mentioned in my previous post) to find an answer on this .... They're P2P allright, but seem to be using a different protocol than Gnutella .... I know this might be a bit off topic, but if some of these gets more users and/or hits than the Gnutella clients, this might be the direction to point people who wish to use P2P :)

I believe you are right about that. There are only go many gnutella file sharing utilities out there.

Almost all claim to be P2P, but they use different protocols. All these different protocols remind me of the BBS days when you had upwards of 30 or more protocols.

Xmodem, Xmodem-1k, Xmodem-1K-G, Ymodem, Ymodem-G, Telink, Kermit, Modem7, SEAlink, Zmodem, Hydra, Bimodem, IceZmodem, Jmodem, Lynx, Megalink, Nmodem, Punter, Puma, Relaxed Xmodem, Windowed Xmodem, and tons more I don't feel like typing.

The point is, just like the P2P file sharing utilities of today, they are tons out there and most use their own proprietary code.

I had heard of kazaa before, but pretty much forgot about it until last summer when Sal mentioned it again. I started using it right away and never looked back.

It's not the absolute best, but when it comes to others like WinMX or edonkey, it is much better. For anything larger than an MP3, Winmx is flat out horrible.

I have Kazaa, WinMX, and Direct Connect all installed just incase I want to look across multiple networks for something, but I rarely use anything other than Kazaa.

As far as I know, anything that is not gnutella based has its own proprietary networking code, but I could be wrong. I'm not a network programmer.

Originally posted by aaron
.... It's not the absolute best, but when it comes to others like WinMX or edonkey, it is much better. For anything larger than an MP3, Winmx is flat out horrible.


You're right about WinMX and mp3's .... I just installed Gnucleus (open source gnutella client), it has nice hits regarding mp3 and various media files .... Haven't tested the download thourougly ... It uses a node system, where you find supernodes/ultrapeers (machines with good speed and a lot of connected time), and utilize those to find what you need. That means no TTL or setting jumps. Only seems to have few programs.


I have Kazaa, WinMX, and Direct Connect all installed just incase I want to look across multiple networks for something, but I rarely use anything other than Kazaa.


Doesn't Kazaa come with spy/addware ???

Direct Connect ?? How does that work ?? and how big is the network ??? Oh and could ya save me the searchtime on Google and post an url :thumb: :D Thanx

Originally posted by 80sSmurf
Doesn't Kazaa come with spy/addware ???

Direct Connect ?? How does that work ?? and how big is the network ??? Oh and could ya save me the searchtime on Google and post an url :thumb: :D Thanx

Uhhh yup... kazaa has spyware. I downloaded ad-aware and ran that to kill the 40+ spy utilities it came with.

As for Direct Connect, go here: http://www.neo-modus.com/

Works much like other P2P file sharing utilities. There are very few large nodes to connect to, I have not yet seen a node with over 1000 users, and once you get connect, you once again have to wait in a queue to download anything. It will resume files, but not automatically. Also, most nodes have a minimum share. Could be 3 GB or 50 GB. So if you don't share, your screwed.

I see DC just like WinMX. For SMALL things like mp3s, it works just fine. I am yet to get a full movie off either one.

WinMX has a bigger network, but I hate the fact that it doesn't auto resume and look for alternate sources without being told. That pisses me off.

I have no idea if DC has spyware or not.

According to http://www.spychecker.com/ Direct Connect has no add/spyware installed, but that hasn't been verified since 2000 .... I think they're getting slobby, since LimeWire doesn't show anything at all, and I know that the newest version has addware ....

I already have Add Aware installed, will it nuke all add/spy components in Kazaa, or does anything get thru' ???

when i downloaded my adware it came out in German, now that I have downloaded Kazaa again, after getting horrible download times on WINMX, how do i know which of the 40+ files that now show up on my adware (spyware?). I know some are necessary to run kazaa

Cal; Where did ya get Ad Aware from ... I got mine from Downloads.com and it was in english.

As for which files are necessary, I'll leave this for someone who uses and knows this program :)

I don't know if DC uses ads or spyware. I haven't seen any ads, but it might contain spyware. Never looked. I use it very rarely.

As for ad-aware, it did just fine finding spyware. After I ran it, almost 50 spyware utilities were found. I killed every single one of them and kazaa still works.

I'm not so sure kazaa requires the spyware to run. I think its more of an annoyance than anything else.

Thanks for the heads up Sal, I hope to use this site when I purchase my Rio Riot mp3 jukebox next week! :thumb:

Go to zeropaid.com an try Kazaa lite 1.7.1 I heard it has no spy ware.
some of my favorite links for music/computer stuff:
Audiotools.co.uk.com
infoanarchy.com
zeropaid.com
monkeysaudio.com(great if you have a big hard drive)
sorry these arn't hyper links just learn the ropes here,enjoy.

Originally posted by Glenn Gulia
Go to zeropaid.com an try Kazaa lite 1.7.1 I heard it has no spy ware.
some of my favorite links for music/computer stuff:
Audiotools.co.uk.com
infoanarchy.com
zeropaid.com
monkeysaudio.com(great if you have a big hard drive)
sorry these arn't hyper links just learn the ropes here,enjoy.

I haven't installed 1.7.1 yet. About a week ago (or so) when I launched kazaa I saw the advertisement for the new version, but I usually don't install them right away. I have seen updates for software released twice in the same week, so I like to wait a few weeks, and if the version doesn't change (as in no bugs found), then I install it.

I never knew for the longest time that kazaa was spyware, but even once I found out, it didn't bother me enough to remove it.

Personally I hate spyware, but its not like someone is monitoring your computer all day every day. With 1.2+ million users, its very hard to kazaa to track all your moves.

Originally posted by Glenn Gulia
Go to zeropaid.com an try Kazaa lite 1.7.1 I heard it has no spy ware ...

Sorry to tell you this Glenn, but Kazza Lite also contains spy/addware even tho' it's just a hacked version of Kazza. Admitted not as much as Kazaa itself, but there's still some sh*t in there :p

Aaron, I agree with ya, no one can manage to monitor 1.2+ mill users, but it's the whole idea of someone being able to look over my shoulder I don't like .... I'm not naive, I know that I can never be completely invisible, but I can at least do my best to keep these leeches of my back :)

BTW I have 1.7.1 installed, only bug I found so far are random program freezes if you're downloading more than 5 files and uploading just one at a time, and then start to search other users files ... Has happened to me twice, as long as I kkep the downloads to a max of 4 at a time, I don't seem to have any problems :)

Thanks for the heads up 80's smurf I guess you should always check just to be sure.I have'nt used Kazza in a long while because my 3 gig hard drive is full.Buliding a new machine right now with 80 gig's. I can't wait I have a list of songs I want that's a mile long...err...kilometer long.

Am I the only one with some stubborn spyware courtesy Audio Galaxy right now all of a sudden? Ad-aware has detected 4 Gator-related files including "gator.log" which it seems to be unable to kill (I couldn't delete them manually either).

Kazaa has that too, it looks to me like this is something related to the adds runnin' at the bottom of the screen while using the client. Mine are recognized by Add-aware, but not clasified as spy/addware ... I think this is something the add-aware team is keeping an eye on, not sure tho' ... I'll check their homesites and a few forums :)

Originally posted by Cartoon_Chris
Am I the only one with some stubborn spyware courtesy Audio Galaxy right now all of a sudden? Ad-aware has detected 4 Gator-related files including "gator.log" which it seems to be unable to kill (I couldn't delete them manually either).

No, you are not the only one - I'm sure that almost everyone who is using the W.0609 version is experiencing "The return of the Gator".
Earlier versions of the AG Satellite were quite easy to handle - run AdAware, select the files, kill them. Plus, if you had ZoneAlarm installed, you simply had prohibited Gator&Co. from accessing the Internet. Voila - one satellite without spyware.
W.0608 was more difficult to handle - when you had removed the spyware files, the satellite has refused to work sometimes.

This had worked for me so far:
1. Run the satellite
2. Run AdAware (it's recommended to upgrade to the latest version)
3. Delete the files while the Satellite is running

You probably have to repeat this from time to time - I have found one file which is pretty resistant to all the delete attempts I have tried so far.

I had a problem with spyware. Thanks to Shakey and wave I was able to delete it. I saved the information on how to manually remove spyware.

I hope this is what you all are talking about since I only skimmed through some posts here. :p

If aomeone wants the step-by-step instructions, send me a PM with an e-mail and I will mail the page to you. :) (for a one time fee of $3000)

Originally posted by TopCat
If someone wants the step-by-step instructions, send me a PM with an e-mail and I will mail the page to you. :) (for a one time fee of $3000)

Hey...are you just in dire need of a tech slut, or do you want to take over my job??? :mad: :lol:

Originally posted by wavemaster


Hey...are you just in dire need of a tech slut, or do you want to take over my job??? :mad: :lol: \

Hey, I am only trying to raise the funds to come for a visit. ;) Notice my fee....:angel:

Is Kazza free?

Yup, that's why they put so much freakin' addware in there :)

I did end up downloading Kazaa Lite and it had very little spyware which i quickly zapped with my ad-aware

In case that anyone is interested...here are my first experiences with WinMX 3.22:

Since AG is down, I needed a new file sharing tool to catch up with my beloved 80s rarities. After consulting a few online computer magazines, my choice was to try it with the latest version of WinMX (3.2 at this time).

The installation process was pretty easy, similar to most other programs of this genre (I guess). Making the proper settings was not that easy, since most functions are only sparsely documented - if there are any documentations, that is. WinMX is only offering an online help which wasn't available at the moment, so it's up to you with toying around until it's halfway running as desired.
You can log in via a primary or a secondary connection, depending on your connection to the internet, firewalls, networks etcetera. This is a vital part of the functionality...if you don't make the proper settings here, WinMX is using up your CPU capacity to the max, resulting in sluggish behaviour of your machine and temporarily stalls.

The GUI is like most of the other sharing tools, soberly designed without any frills. The choices you can make (like "Auto-Complete", "Retry/Find Sources") are also not documented, so you are on your own once again - you have to try out the functions and see what will happen.
In the initial settings, you were asked for the region in which WinMX is supposed to hunt for the files. You can only choose one out of six, but you can change it later as you like. I guess this is supposed to reduce bandwidth issues, but it's still a huge limitation. WinMX allows you to share almost anything regarding pics, audio- and videofiles, and you can narrow down your search to your desires.

Of course, WinMX can't give you the variety of AG when it comes to audio files...if it only would give the speed and availability at least. Uploads and downloads are rather slow at most times - in my example, although I'm hooked up to the net via DSL, the average DL is up to 5 K/sec (max was 19 K/sec...for a few secs only), while the UL rates are really sucking with avg 2 K/sec. Maybe it's all a matter of finetuning WinMX - see above.
Understandably, the majority of users are limiting the availability of files, so it can happen that you have to download a file over several days, plus you have to take care of the selected files manually - WinMX is not automatically searching for a possible download once your list of selected users has molten away.

After all, I haven't gathered enough experience with WinMX yet, so I can't either recommend or damn it, but one thing is for sure - AG was way more comfortable in the use...and faster.

Thanx wavey :thumb: Sounds like it's time to upgrade WinMX for this Smurf ... Kazaa & Gnucleus aren't that good when it comes to mp3s ... It's in the progs and fliks department they rule :)

OK guys....I found one which was featured on an a current affair show over here. It's called Qtrax...the good thing about it is - the atrists still get their money! So there should be no problems like Napster and shuch. Haven't used it yet, but I thought I'd let you guys know about it.

Qtraxmax here.... (http://www.qtrax.com)
You do need to be registered with *"www.download.com"* before you can download it. Unless of course you find it elsewhere!

Let me know what you guys think of it! :) The net is VERY slow tonight so I can't get it yet. :mad:

Thought it would be nice of me to inform you about my latest experiences with file sharing programs...

First - I have almost abandoned WinMX again.
I was rarely able to get any reasonable download rates, and the upload rates were even poorer. The search for files is often turning out to be a trial of patience - sometimes you have to repeat this process about 2-3 times until WinMX is finally getting in gear, even for "easy to find"-items. Last but not least, it seems that this place is infested with leechers and misers, since I had never experienced so many forcefully terminated downloads ('tho, could be a German thing :D).

In the meanwhile, I have changed to audioGnome - it's working far better for me now, but it requires even more digging into the settings IMHO. Once again, I think that this program could need a little bit more of documentation (see my WinMX-posting above), let's see how far I will come with the gnome.

I'm still wishing AudioGalaxy back...:cry:

That's all I use anymore, but watch out they can track allyou download. Theree is a utility that you can get from download.com that will counter it. Happy trails.....

WinMX is almost complete utter trash. The largest file I was EVER able to get before the user logged off was maybe 40 megs.

You have to tell it to resume and to keep searching for alterative download nodes. Even though it says it does, it doesn't. Kazaa tries, but sometimes you have to help it out.

The other thing that PISSES me off about WinMX is if your download is cut short, you have to tell it to start over. If you exit and come back, you have to reload your entire incomplete download list and restart each file manually.

Kazaa doesn't do that.

This is why I don't use WinMX anymore. It just plain blows.

wow...this is a year old. I saw June or July (whatever) on the first post and was about to say wow....you old folks are out of it. I was using kazaa like a year ago, but then looked closer at the date. Anyway, audiogalaxy was the best program ever....winmx is okay. kazaa is the best thing going right now as far as I know.

Despite the spyware, I still miss Audio Galaxy :mad: it was THE place to find b-sides and rare tracks you can't get in a store.