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Ted Nugent
10-01-02, 07:18 PM
After a little over a year of begging, pleading and pointing out every motorcycle on the road, to show just how safe and common motorcycles are, to my mother, she FINALLY gave in, and said I could get one! :D She did place certain restrictions but hey, at least I can ride it. :p

Just need the moola. Thinking of getting a used one for starters but I start working within a few months (I was gonna work this summer but I decided not to) and I could save up for a new one.

Any ideas on what model or year I should go for? Has to be a Harley of course, though. :D


YAY FOR ME! LOL :goofy:

Shortie Blonde
10-01-02, 07:56 PM
One I'm not riding on. :lol: :p

Iluvthe80s
10-01-02, 09:45 PM
Do you realize how much most Harleys cost, Ted? Most are pretty expensive. Good luck! :)

RetroMan
10-01-02, 10:00 PM
All I can say is two things "Follow your dream" and more importantly "You only live once" go for it Ted!

It's funny, I thought by the topic of this thread we were going to be talking about ManowaR

"Wheels of fire - burn in the night
Ride across the sky
Wheels of fire - burning bright
We live to RIDE!!!!!!!!!" (http://www.80sxchange.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15051&pagenumber=1)

Ted Nugent
10-01-02, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by RetroMan
All I can say is two things "Follow your dream" and more importantly "You only live once" go for it Ted!

It's funny, I thought by the topic of this thread we were going to be talking about ManowaR

"Wheels of fire - burn in the night
Ride across the sky
Wheels of fire - burning bright
We live to RIDE!!!!!!!!!" (http://www.80sxchange.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15051&pagenumber=1)


Love that song. :D Nice bike too, I'm jealous!

Originally posted by Iluvthe80s
Do you realize how much most Harleys cost, Ted? Most are pretty expensive. Good luck! :)

I did some research, quite outta my league. lol 18 grand for the one I want! Worth saving up for though. I did find some nice cheaper ones though too. I'll take anything, I love all motorcycles. :D

Originally posted by Shortie Blonde
One I'm not riding on. :lol: :p

Yeah huh, I'll make you. :lol: I'll take you up the back woods of Vermont, in Autumn one day, with all the leaves changing. I always wanted to do that. :p

jen*
10-01-02, 10:21 PM
Sorry Teddy boy, I wouldn't have given in. My brother and my sister were both in pretty serious motorcycle wrecks. They were each nearly killed. Not because they weren't safe drivers (or riders in my sister's case) but because the people who hit them weren't paying attention or didn't see them. I also knew a kid and I mean kid (he was only 17) who was killed in a motorcycle wreck. He lost control of the bike and when he layed it down he hit his head on the curb and was killed instantly. This only an hour after I threw a fit because he didn't have a helmet on. Sorry bud. I don't like them at all.

I hope I didn't offend anyone with my post, but it's my opinion and it comes from personal experience. :)

I just worry.....a lot.

ValJ
10-01-02, 11:08 PM
I agree, Jen, people on the road do not pay enough attention to bikers, and don't respect their right to be there.

As for the danger, seems everything boys like is dangerous, some just like a higher degree of it. :lol: Honestly, though, I've ridden on the back of a few of 'em, and have never been in a wreck. No one I know who owns one has ever had a serious accident, either. ;) Maybe I was just lucky?

Around here, all the accidents happen on those 4 wheel ATV thingies. A boy at our school died in an accident on those. You'd think: 4 wheels = good balance. But since they ride them off road, and through mud, anything can happen.

Just get one of those quiet ones, Ted! They are much nicer to hear....:lol:

Sarg
10-01-02, 11:10 PM
I've had friends that wrecked while riding their bikes, most of them weren't at fault either. It's the ones driving the cars that bikers have to watch out for. About six months ago I passed an accident scene where the driver of a car ran a red light and struck a guy on a motorcycle who had the green. The car was torn up pretty good, but the bike driver's body was covered over. There was no fixing him.

If you're just starting out riding Ted, you might want to start out with a bike smaller and less costly than a Harley. Their not very cheap, even used. Be safe dude!

wavemaster
10-02-02, 12:28 AM
At first: Ted, you are better off without a Harley (or any other chopper, cruiser etc.) at first.

Don't be fooled by the low and "easy" seating position - they're great as long as the road goes straight ahead, but once the lanes become winding or you are in the inner-city traffic, you will think about riding such a bike twice. Due to the wide wheelbase and the broad bars, the front wheel tends to turn in suddenly at lower speeds, a behaviour which is surprising many "newbies" on bikes (as you can see on many driving school vehicles of this kind, like scraped bar ends and bend footrests ;)).
On long trips, you will also find out soon that the seating is maybe comfortable...which can't be said for the shock absorbers. Being that short, the rear absorbers have to be pretty hard to prevent "slammin' thru", and you decide to buy a chopper with a 22° fork, you can't expect much damping from there, too. You will notice this after your first longer excursion when you have the feeling that your spine is growing into your brain and your arms feel like wooden rods.
Last but not least...these bikes are pretty heavy machinery, which adds another possibly dangerous twist to the way of riding them. Swerving around an unexpected object (like TC who wants to drag you off your bike :D) can become a task of complex mathematic calculations between the right amount of pulling the bar, balancing the hog and avoiding to scrape a mark in the tarmac with the footrests.
Oh...have I forgotten to mention the expensive costs of maintaining a Harley?

It's no shame if you are collecting your first experiences on a smaller (and even japanese) bike, like a Kawasaki ER-5 Twister, Honda CB 500 or Suzuki GS 500 E Slingshot. These bikes are pretty cheap to buy and maintain, and the handling is pretty easy, too. The only thing you have to miss is the coolness factor, but once you got the grip, you can get yourself the bike of your desire - and you will have a way better feeling with handling the beast. ;)

But...before you even start to fantasize about riding a bike...think about the safety wear!
If you think that integral helmets, a proper jacket and trousers, gloves and special riding boots are uncool, forget it and stick to your Priestmobile. Do it right or let it be, that's all that I will say about it. Each piece of proper and approved safety wear might save your health, if not your life.
Be told by someone who went off his bike at 160 kph and went away with minor injuries due to correct safety wear.

Tinajo
10-02-02, 09:08 AM
Wave! All of that was PERFECT advice! Just listen to everything that Wavey said and you will be just fine, Ted! :thumb:

I was majorly into riding motorcycles in the early 20's.. I ALWAYS wore my helmet and leather! Not ONE person told me that I looked uncool, let me tell ya! So don't worry about that!

Yeah.. most Harley's cost more than my car! :lol: (And I have a 2002 Taurus..) so like Wave said, start off with something smaller and easier to handle like a Honda...
There's nothing worse that laying down a bike that is too heavy for you to handle on curves when you are a beginner, let me tell you... it's also quite embarrassing... (I've been there, too!)

I'm not overly worried about the accident factor.. hey.. you only live once.. once you get that wind in your hair, it will be worth it!
Watch out for idiots.. and start out in local areas that you are most familiar with so that you don't run into any suprise stop lights or oncoming traffic that you weren't anticipating...


Sounds like you have alot of saving to do! $$$$

Ted Nugent
10-02-02, 12:09 PM
I completely agree with all of you. My mother says about the same thing. It's dangerous, but hey, I only live once. And it isn't really dangerous if I wear proper gear (Like Wave said) and if I know the roads well. All this I already took into account. Before I even begin to start driving I will be scouting out the roads I plan on riding, by checking for dirt or sand in the road (My uncle's brother died by skidding it in) and heavy traffic (My grandfathers friend got crushed by an 18-wheeler).

People have no respect for motorcycles! I saw a motorcyclist almost get hit the other day by a minivan, damn soccer mother! And I know from my driving experiences, it isn't always easy to see a motorcycle coming. The road is also very unforgiving to bikers with all the pot holes and junk. Hence my reasoning to start learning on freshly done roads in NH. That way the road is safe and it won't be busy. Plus I think that's really romantic, country road, trees all around. <sigh>

Wave, you said alot I didn't know. Thank you! I don't mind wearing the proper gear (I love anything leather :D), so I was already planning on that. But I had no idea about those problems with Harleys. There's a Honda motorcycle dealer down the street, I'll have to go down there and see what they have. I'm gonna go with a cheaper, lighter bike for my first one, now that you said that. Thanks again for the advice!

And to everyone else, thank you.

Darkmatter
10-02-02, 01:12 PM
All I can add is... definitely buy a used bike first. If you want a cruiser buy a used Honda Shadow or the like to begin with. Because... there exists two types of riders in this world... those who have gone down and those who will (ok guys, get your minds out of the gutter :D). I would rather dump a used bike than a new one. That's my two cents worth.

Ted Nugent
10-02-02, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by Darkmatter
All I can add is... definitely buy a used bike first. If you want a cruiser buy a used Honda Shadow or the like to begin with. Because... there exists two types of riders in this world... those who have gone down and those who will (ok guys, get your minds out of the gutter :D). I would rather dump a used bike than a new one. That's my two cents worth.

I'll go look up Honda Shadows, I like cruisers alot, and will most likely end up getting one.........oneday. I don't think I want one since Wave said it isn't a good idea. :p Being as he has more experience in this area, I will take his word for it.

bigcozy
10-02-02, 01:47 PM
I don't totally agree with everything here, let me kick in some thoughts. I got my first bike when I was six years old. since that time, I have never been without one (and I am old). I have never had a major accident and have never had to drop a bike on the street. A few points:

* When you get a bike, everybody, EVERYBODY, is going to tell you some horror story about there brother's uncle's cousin that got there head ripped off in a bike accident. Get used to it. My significant other is an ER doctor, I get it all the time.......

* The average age of a Harley owner is 46. The reason is primarily cost. The other reasons are that only someone with disposable income can justify a bike that is slower, has worse brakes, requires expensive upkeep, and probably isn't made as well as bike half its cost. Its called Nostalgia, hell, Harley even named a bike that. That said, they are pretty good bikes if that is what you want. Not every Harley is chopped out, just the FXSTC (what I have) and the Dyna Wide Glide and their variants are. The FL's are the "fat" bikes and they have fairly standard set ups as well as the Dyna Glide which handles very well and actually stops pretty well. They are heavy, but they sit low and balance well. The new 88inch twin cam engine is a step up from the Evolution and I would prefer it. Do not consider an older shovelhead unless you are a mechanic. A good low cost choice would be an XL, a Sportster. Less than half the price, good ergonomics, lighter (and quicker) they are plentiful and can be found pretty cheaply in the aftermarket. You will have to change the "peanut" tank, it will only have enough gas for 90 miles. You might also consider Buell (www.buell.com). This is a Harley offshoot with Greg Buell that take Harley sportster engines and put them in sport bike chassis. They also make a 500cc Blast that is very light and is around $4K.

* "Choppers" do have what we call "fall in" at low speeds. I ride a farily chopped Harley FSXTC and Honda Shadow and I have no problem with them at any speed. I also have a Ducati 900ssCR and it handles better, but I don't feel more confident on it than I do my other bikes. It is what you are used to, if you haven't ridden a bike that has a long front end and forward controls it will probably freak you out for awhile - but you can adjust.

* Most Harley's don't have short shocks, they have shocks that are hidden under the seat and have preload adjutments. The Softails, anyway, the Dyna's have plenty of adjustment as well.

* I grew up racing dirt bikes and paid for my first college degree as a bike mechanic. Without question, no matter how you slice it, the rice burners are more dependable. I have a 1987 Honda Shadow
http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/aprilstoy/vwp?.dir=/Big+Cozy&.src=ph&.dnm=IMAGE0047.JPG.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/aprilstoy/lst%3f%26.dir=/Big%2bCozy%26.src=ph%26.view=t

that I have bought three times and sold twice. I left it in Utah for five years, along with a 1986 Harley Heritage Softail in a friends airplane hanger. It cost about $900 to get the Harley running. It cost $52 to get the Honda running...the price of a battery. Enough said. My Honda Shadow has outlived every bike I have owned including three Harley's.

* Don't listen to anyone about what you should buy. Buy what makes you dream about it at night, it should be like a woman you can't stop thinking about. I will say this, in my humble opinion, you should buy the biggest bike you are comfortable with. You will only have to resell and buy another bike if you get one too small. Buy what you want, get used to it, ride like hell.

* Don't listen to people that don't ride. We have had a warm spell and I have done about 400 miles in the last three days on my bike. I am talking as a everyday rider that has ridden for 30 years. When people that don't ride start talking about helmets and safety classes all I hear is "blah, blah, blah". Take a course if you can or you want to, buying a helmet isn't rocket science. While leathers will help road rash the real reason we wear them is that it is the best thing I have worn to cut the wind. Looks good too.

* Whatever you buy, check the insurance first. BTW Harley insurance will about 2-3 times more than any other bike.

* A good rule of thumb we use is - if it doesn't scare little old ladies, get a nastier bike.


Post a pic when you get it.

PS - I will sell my FXSTC for $15K


Cozy Rudewater,
Sergeant of Arms
Disciples of Steel Motorcycle Club

Shortie Blonde
10-02-02, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by Ted Nugent


Yeah huh, I'll make you. :lol: I'll take you up the back woods of Vermont, in Autumn one day, with all the leaves changing. I always wanted to do that. :p

MAYBE SOMEDAY when I'm older. But NOT now. Vermont's not that great. :lol: But the road to Bromely Mountain's nice daddy always says (daddy used to have a mo-mo-sikie).

Teddie just don't get a low rider :yucky: only my Billy looks good on those and don't get one of those big huge harley things.

Ted Nugent
10-02-02, 07:29 PM
So far I haven't heard anything too great about Harleys. Are they really that much to maintain?


Bigcozy, I like your philsophy on buying a bike. hehe I wouldn't say I have my heart set on any bike just yet, I do love Harleys but I'm not against getting something else. I will love any bike, because it'll be my first bike. Just like I love my '91 Camry, it's nothing special but it was my first.

What would you recommand for a 16 y/o who has never ridden a motorcycle? Preferably something under 6K.

Should I buy new? Will a used one not be good for a beginner?

What kind of things should I get before I get a motorcycle, besides the obvious?

Thank you, Bigcozy for the input, it's good to see what a biker with 30 years experience, has to say in the matter.

Originally posted by Shortie Blonde


MAYBE SOMEDAY when I'm older. But NOT now. Vermont's not that great. :lol: But the road to Bromely Mountain's nice daddy always says (daddy used to have a mo-mo-sikie).

Teddie just don't get a low rider :yucky: only my Billy looks good on those and don't get one of those big huge harley things.

I can't afford "those big huge Harley things." lol Don't worry. :lol:

But I ~am~ dragging you along one day. :D

Shortie Blonde
10-02-02, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by Ted Nugent


I can't afford "those big huge Harley things." lol Don't worry. :lol:

But I ~am~ dragging you along one day. :D

No you're not. Not for another 10 or 15 years. :lol:

bigcozy
10-03-02, 10:52 AM
OK Uncle Ted,

I would buy used. Simple reason is cost and most bikes that have been stored properly will only need minor work. I would stay with rice burners, they are just that much more bullet proof. One of the major reasons to buy used is that insurance is much less, if you just get liability it is like $125 a year for my Honda. The other reason is, depending on your state, you will avoid sales tax.

What to look for in a used bike:

* Make sure that gas hasn't been stored in the bike for a long time. Gas turns to sludge over time and will clog the carbs. This will require removing and cleaning the carbs and then re-sync of the carb(s). On average this will be around $250 or more. Also check and see if the bike is sluggish, this might indicate the carbs needing a re-sync.

* Bikes go through batteries quickly in cold climates and when stored. Figure on putting a battery in any bike that hasn't been run for awhile. The battery in it might work, but it may be on borrowed time. When I buy a used bike, I just put a battery in it when I get it. I don't want the battery to pick a time not to crank when I am out in the sticks.

* Far more important than any safety gear you wear is how safe your tires are. NEVER cheap out on tires. Bike tires are extra sticky and that means they wear out faster than car tires. Any bike tire that has dry rot or looks worn is better off replaced. Bike tires usually only wear on the left side of the tire so don't be suprised by the wear pattern. Bike tires are also pretty expensive so check that out first.

* One of the main victims of storage are the fork seals. Make sure they aren't leaking.

* Start the bike, check all lights and blinkers. If something electronic doesn't work this could be a sign of other problems. See how far it takes the clutch to engage, if it is way out, it may need only a simple adjustment or it could be a bad clutch. Check to make sure there is NO, none, not any, rust in or on the gas tank. Check the brake rotors to see if they are scored, you don't want to replace a rotor, very expensive. Mare sure when you shift the shifts are positive and it doesn't jump out of gear. Let it idle for awhile, see if the idle moves up and down, it shouldn't. Check all your fluids. Look to see if the oil is clear, bad oil will be very dark or a brown color.

* Find out as much about the history of the bike as possible. How it was ridden, how it was serviced, how it was stored.

* The good thing is most bikes are ridden very little and are mostly ignored. People get them and ride for awhile and then it gets cold or they get busy. Then the battery goes down, then the tires deflate and it sits there. You would be shocked how many bikes I have bought for $50 that had been sitting as long as ten years only needed a few minutes work and a battery to start. The most important thing is to find something in good shape that needs no major work or parts replaced. Bike parts are very expensive.

* My reccomendation would be something like a Honda Shadow 600 VLX. It is a cruiser, looks great, sounds good, very low. Light, quick, and very common. Common is important to buy parts and to buy cheap. It is bullet proof. You probably wouldn't need to get a bigger bike for a long time. Also I would say the Buell 500 Blast, Suzuki 600 bandit or 500E, Yamaha Virago 535 is a great bike. Go out and sit on as many bikes as you can and get an idea of what you like. My number one pick would be the Honda 600 VLX. You should be able to find them used around $1200-3000.

*Things you should get. Helmet, I noticed in a bike magazine you could mail order (also online) a Bieffe helmet for $59, that is a great helmet and an incredible deal. Its up to you about clothing. I live where its hot most of the time, so I usually just wear jeans and a heavy shirt. The main problem clothing wise is that you get hit with a lot of debris, and at 70mph, it hurts. Any good leather jacket. Some people buy jackets with body armor in them, I don't see how that would help, but it might not hurt. I am unconvinced that body armor and special footwear does anything that impressive in an impact. Get a full face helmet with a pull down shield, that way you don't have to keep up with glasses or goggles. I don't wear a helmet in the summer, so I keep a pair of extra clear glasses on my bike all the time. Nothing worse than getting caught late at night with nothing buy dark sunglasses.

*Start buying bike magazines. Cycle World is great, this month they have Billy Lane's wild hubless chopper and a Buell on the cover. Don't buy Easy Rider or your mother will come after me. Read Peter Egan every month, he is brilliant.

* Hang out with folks that ride. Riders are different. They are a lot of fun and they are always a little off center. You will meet somebody from every walk of life on a bike. I used to be a hard core colors wearing biker in my youth, but I would always stop and talk to anybody on the side of the road if their bike broke down.

* MOST IMPORTANT. Every time you ride, assume that every car on the road is trying to kill you. Don't get in a hurry ever. Ride a night as little as possible. Ride in a group when you can. Traffic is your enemy. 68% of all motorcycle fatalities involve alcohol in some way. Don't drink, don't ride near bars. Don't ride when you are tired.


* If you get a bike and ride, I will have to give you a biker name. In my club, I give out the names so I will extend that to you. I was about your age when I was dubbed "Cozy". The story behind that is too long to go into here.

BC

Ted Nugent
10-04-02, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by bigcozy
OK Uncle Ted,

I would buy used. Simple reason is cost and most bikes that have been stored properly will only need minor work. I would stay with rice burners, they are just that much more bullet proof. One of the major reasons to buy used is that insurance is much less, if you just get liability it is like $125 a year for my Honda. The other reason is, depending on your state, you will avoid sales tax.

What to look for in a used bike:

* Make sure that gas hasn't been stored in the bike for a long time. Gas turns to sludge over time and will clog the carbs. This will require removing and cleaning the carbs and then re-sync of the carb(s). On average this will be around $250 or more. Also check and see if the bike is sluggish, this might indicate the carbs needing a re-sync.

* Bikes go through batteries quickly in cold climates and when stored. Figure on putting a battery in any bike that hasn't been run for awhile. The battery in it might work, but it may be on borrowed time. When I buy a used bike, I just put a battery in it when I get it. I don't want the battery to pick a time not to crank when I am out in the sticks.

* Far more important than any safety gear you wear is how safe your tires are. NEVER cheap out on tires. Bike tires are extra sticky and that means they wear out faster than car tires. Any bike tire that has dry rot or looks worn is better off replaced. Bike tires usually only wear on the left side of the tire so don't be suprised by the wear pattern. Bike tires are also pretty expensive so check that out first.

* One of the main victims of storage are the fork seals. Make sure they aren't leaking.

* Start the bike, check all lights and blinkers. If something electronic doesn't work this could be a sign of other problems. See how far it takes the clutch to engage, if it is way out, it may need only a simple adjustment or it could be a bad clutch. Check to make sure there is NO, none, not any, rust in or on the gas tank. Check the brake rotors to see if they are scored, you don't want to replace a rotor, very expensive. Mare sure when you shift the shifts are positive and it doesn't jump out of gear. Let it idle for awhile, see if the idle moves up and down, it shouldn't. Check all your fluids. Look to see if the oil is clear, bad oil will be very dark or a brown color.

* Find out as much about the history of the bike as possible. How it was ridden, how it was serviced, how it was stored.

* The good thing is most bikes are ridden very little and are mostly ignored. People get them and ride for awhile and then it gets cold or they get busy. Then the battery goes down, then the tires deflate and it sits there. You would be shocked how many bikes I have bought for $50 that had been sitting as long as ten years only needed a few minutes work and a battery to start. The most important thing is to find something in good shape that needs no major work or parts replaced. Bike parts are very expensive.

* My reccomendation would be something like a Honda Shadow 600 VLX. It is a cruiser, looks great, sounds good, very low. Light, quick, and very common. Common is important to buy parts and to buy cheap. It is bullet proof. You probably wouldn't need to get a bigger bike for a long time. Also I would say the Buell 500 Blast, Suzuki 600 bandit or 500E, Yamaha Virago 535 is a great bike. Go out and sit on as many bikes as you can and get an idea of what you like. My number one pick would be the Honda 600 VLX. You should be able to find them used around $1200-3000.

*Things you should get. Helmet, I noticed in a bike magazine you could mail order (also online) a Bieffe helmet for $59, that is a great helmet and an incredible deal. Its up to you about clothing. I live where its hot most of the time, so I usually just wear jeans and a heavy shirt. The main problem clothing wise is that you get hit with a lot of debris, and at 70mph, it hurts. Any good leather jacket. Some people buy jackets with body armor in them, I don't see how that would help, but it might not hurt. I am unconvinced that body armor and special footwear does anything that impressive in an impact. Get a full face helmet with a pull down shield, that way you don't have to keep up with glasses or goggles. I don't wear a helmet in the summer, so I keep a pair of extra clear glasses on my bike all the time. Nothing worse than getting caught late at night with nothing buy dark sunglasses.

*Start buying bike magazines. Cycle World is great, this month they have Billy Lane's wild hubless chopper and a Buell on the cover. Don't buy Easy Rider or your mother will come after me. Read Peter Egan every month, he is brilliant.

* Hang out with folks that ride. Riders are different. They are a lot of fun and they are always a little off center. You will meet somebody from every walk of life on a bike. I used to be a hard core colors wearing biker in my youth, but I would always stop and talk to anybody on the side of the road if their bike broke down.

* MOST IMPORTANT. Every time you ride, assume that every car on the road is trying to kill you. Don't get in a hurry ever. Ride a night as little as possible. Ride in a group when you can. Traffic is your enemy. 68% of all motorcycle fatalities involve alcohol in some way. Don't drink, don't ride near bars. Don't ride when you are tired.


* If you get a bike and ride, I will have to give you a biker name. In my club, I give out the names so I will extend that to you. I was about your age when I was dubbed "Cozy". The story behind that is too long to go into here.

BC


First off, thank you thank you thank you.

There's alot there I didn't know, and it'd be a shame if I got a bike and didn't look for those things.

I'm going back and forth on new and used. The only reason I could see for going used is price. I looked up prices on new and used, and they aren't that much different. Not to mention my mother has forbade me to go used. lol I could easily afford a new one at around 5K. But I want one I could beat around on for a bit to get used to riding, so I may convince my mother to let me get a used one.

If I do get a used bike, I'll see if I can get it from someone I know. That way if I have any questions about the bike, like how long has it been stored, and things like that, they could be answered at anytime. Plus I could get a deal. hehe

Look-wise, I like the Honda 600 VLX best. And I read that it's a good beginners bike. I will most likely go with that when the time comes.

I went to get my motorcycle permit this morning. :D So I'm one step closer to riding now. :devil: Just need the bike!

So far my plan is to get my bike when I start working. And I start work whenever I can get my car going. Right now, I can't afford to register it and insure it. So I have to wait for my father to do that. But once that's done, I'll be able to get my bike. There's alot of great deals out there on bikes (I saw alot of good ones online), I'm sure they'll be others just as good when I do start looking to buy.

There's also a little shop down the street that sells new and used bikes, I'm gonna go by there sometime and check out what they have. See what I want and what fits my situation.

As for safety gear, I think I'll get a helmet in person, online you can't be sure it'll fit you. I already have a nice leather jacket but I need a new one. And my Harley boots are worn out, I've worn them everyday for the last 2 years. :eek: I saw a nice pair of knee high Chippawas (sp?) for $200. I have my heart set on them. And for chaps, those are only for winter, right?

I'll have to pick up Cycle World, I'm trying to be as informed as I possibly can be. My life is not something I play with.

Cozy? Hmmm Do I even wanna know the story behind that one? :lol:

Thanks again!


Originally posted by Shortie Blonde


No you're not. Not for another 10 or 15 years. :lol:

You won't be able to resist. :D ;)

Shortie Blonde
10-04-02, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by Ted Nugent


You won't be able to resist. :D ;)

Yeah I will. :p